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Posted on 04-09-10 04:52:45 AM

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Originally posted by cpubasic13
ALSO ARCEUS

If you have Arceus go to the Unown Ruins and you'll encounter a scene involving stock photography and Arceus creates either Palkia, Dialga, or Giratina at Level 1 for you. THIS WHOLE SCENE

IS WHY I HATE THE NEW POKEMON STORIES

I just did that. I thought where the hell has the story gone to

The whole prospect of it was just way too out of place for me. I guess I haven't missed much since G/S/C... and I'm glad, too.

Maybe the new generation will attempt to fix this by going even "deeper..." oh god.

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Posted on 04-09-10 04:55:22 AM

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Originally posted by Darkdata
This is the reason that really, only team rocket is remembered.

Brb going to:
TAKE OVER THE WORLD (Cackle) - Rocket

KILL LOTS OF PEOPLE WITH FLOODS/VOLCANO ERUPTIONS (Aqua/Magma)

Rewrite Time/Space - (Team whatsthenameagain?)

To be fair, aqua and magma had no fucking idea what deep shit they were wading around in. It was Magma: WE WANT MORE LAND vs. Aqua: WE WANT MORE WATER

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Posted on 04-09-10 04:58:46 AM

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Originally posted by Tyty
Originally posted by Darkdata
This is the reason that really, only team rocket is remembered.

Brb going to:
TAKE OVER THE WORLD (Cackle) - Rocket

KILL LOTS OF PEOPLE WITH FLOODS/VOLCANO ERUPTIONS (Aqua/Magma)

Rewrite Time/Space - (Team whatsthenameagain?)

To be fair, aqua and magma had no fucking idea what deep shit they were wading around in. It was Magma: WE WANT MORE LAND vs. Aqua: WE WANT MORE WATER

Those are still dumb reasons.

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:00:22 AM

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Originally posted by Tyty
To be fair, aqua and magma had no fucking idea what deep shit they were wading around in. It was Magma: WE WANT MORE LAND vs. Aqua: WE WANT MORE WATER

Originally posted by "Bulbapedia"
their first major plot is to use a Meteorite to cause Mt. Chimney to erupt and expand the land.

Yep. Compared to releasing eternal sun, what is the environment and a town?

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:09:44 AM

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So people are wondering if we're going to see a new Light type as well as a stronger focus on Dark types. Zorua and Zoroark are both Dark and were the gen 5 reveals. A Light type could make sense considering the games are Pokemon Black and White. And I'd say we're overdue for new types considering dark and steel came out 10 years ago.

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:16:03 AM

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Originally posted by Darkdata
Rewrite Time/Space - (Team whatsthenameagain?)

Galactic?

I seriously have to think everyone for FINALLY pinpointing what was wrong with the newer generations, I couldn't do it for the life of me.

I actually didn't MIND the fourth generation too much, but the third was kinda eh with the story. (On the other hand, none of the pokémon introduced in gen4 are very memorable at all... it turns into a blur around the third for me.)

Let's hope they get more things right. HG/SS feels like a step in the right direction, even if it IS just a remake.

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:17:05 AM

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Heh, I would not want to be the programmer trying to balance a new type. Could very well be possible though.

What I really want is to play as team rocket, but that will never happen.

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:23:45 AM

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Let me say this then.

If R/S/E were just like G/S/C and R/B/Y what would people have done?

Complained there was nothing new.

So Nintendo tried something new, and got nerdraged on.

People complain so much about the new games, but that's due to nostalgia, if you ask me.

Magma wanted to destroy 1 town, for the sake of more land. Now. How is this different from Rocket torturing a lake full of innocent pokemon, probably fucking with the environment around as well, just to evolve magikarp into gyarados? How is it different from rocket slashing off the tails of poor slowpoke, just for financial gain?

"Taking over the world" is their motive, right? How much insideous, evil stuff would they have to do to accomplish that?

Honestly. That 1 town could probably be evacuated too :/

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:27:00 AM

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I never said that I hated the RSE/PPD Games, they were just not as captivating story-wise as GSC.

Also, all of team-rockets plans never involved anything that would rewrite space time, or largely destroy landmasses.

I would not be terribly surprised if that was the next step however. :p

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:29:18 AM

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Rocket was just evil at times. They are the kind of people that would step on kittens for money. Magma and Aqua just seem crazy to me. Granted I haven't played R/S/E but still, they don't seem as threatening as Rocket ever was. At the least, their motivations are dumber.

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:30:57 AM

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04-09-10 12:30:57 AM
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The types could use a bit of adjustment, though I don't know about a whole new type. It won't change the fact that Ghost, Dark and Steel are semi-uber for their lack of weaknesses.

HG/SS has it almost perfect: types make sense (except maybe Magnemite), abilities don't usually fuck you, it works well. Compare to Ru/Sa where I'd frequently be completely unable to attack because an enemy is immune to almost every type of attack I have due to its bizarre type combination, and then has Levitate or something to make my last remaining attack equally useless (if not actually healing them).

Personally I've always found the storyline to be at least good enough. Something more interesting is nice every so often, but the games are fun as it is, and I rather like how they tend to chain together several side-quest-like tasks as additional plot. (Your goal is just go beat these people up, but before you can fight this guy, you need to go across the sea and get medicine, etc.) Ultimately it's fun to go around catching and raising the critters and exploring the world regardless of exactly why, as long as the world, events, etc are well-designed.

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:36:48 AM

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Originally posted by FirePhoenix
Rocket was just evil at times. They are the kind of people that would step on kittens for money. Magma and Aqua just seem crazy to me. Granted I haven't played R/S/E but still, they don't seem as threatening as Rocket ever was. At the least, their motivations are dumber.

Aqua is dumber than magma.

Flood the ENTIRE WORLD just for pokemon.

Magma just wanted some more land :V

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Posted on 04-09-10 05:38:50 AM

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Originally posted by Tyty
Originally posted by FirePhoenix
Rocket was just evil at times. They are the kind of people that would step on kittens for money. Magma and Aqua just seem crazy to me. Granted I haven't played R/S/E but still, they don't seem as threatening as Rocket ever was. At the least, their motivations are dumber.

Aqua is dumber than magma.

Flood the ENTIRE WORLD just for pokemon.

Magma just wanted some more land :V

But wasn't the volcano magma wanted to erupt in the middle of the continent? What point is there to erupting a volcano for more land when it is already surrounded by land?

And Aqua's motivations are just pure stupid. Rocket would eat them for lunch.

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The real issue at hand here is, the theme songs.

You have the Rocket songs, including the anime one, which are memorable, and rock.

Then you have the Team Wannabe songs, which generally don't get remembered and are forgotten.

Therefore, if Pokemon wants a team to be remembered, it should either be Team Rocket, or get better motivations/music.

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Posted on 04-09-10 06:01:43 AM

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04-09-10 01:01:43 AM
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Originally posted by Metal_Man88
You have the Rocket songs, including the anime one, which BUUUUURRRRRNNNNNNN

fixed that for you.

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Posted on 04-09-10 06:06:17 AM

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Originally posted by Tyty
Let me say this then.

If R/S/E were just like G/S/C and R/B/Y what would people have done?

Complained there was nothing new.

So Nintendo tried something new, and got nerdraged on.

People complain so much about the new games, but that's due to nostalgia, if you ask me.

The reason I adore G/S so much is that it was a proper sequel. That is, it expanded the universe. You got to explore Kanto two years after the events of R/B/Y and later on fight the hero of those games.

However, in later games, you have one area, and that's it. It doesn't expand.

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Posted on 04-09-10 06:09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Supakitsune
I'm fairly sure that all it is is an announcement, and it's saying that more details will be revealed on April 15th.

Waiting for this will be taxing.

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Posted on 04-09-10 06:20:27 AM

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Originally posted by Xkeeper
Originally posted by Supakitsune
I'm fairly sure that all it is is an announcement, and it's saying that more details will be revealed on April 15th.

Waiting for this will be taxing.

*groan*

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Posted on 04-09-10 09:46:48 AM

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Originally posted by Darkdata
This is the reason that really, only team rocket is remembered.

Brb going to:
TAKE OVER THE WORLD (Cackle) - Rocket

KILL LOTS OF PEOPLE WITH FLOODS/VOLCANO ERUPTIONS (Aqua/Magma)

Rewrite Time/Space - (Team whatsthenameagain?)

don't forget that team Galactic blew up one of the lakes and left many a Magikarp flopping about

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