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Posted on 04-06-10 01:04:09 AM Link | Quote
I don't want to derail an already existing topic so I will ask my question here.

Does anybody know of a programme (for Windows 7 preferably) that can remap the Windows Logo key and the Right-Click Menu key? I could really put those keys into use if I could have them mapped to a symbol, and I sometimes tend to accidently trigger the menu key when I go to hold down the Alt-Gr key.

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Posted on 04-06-10 01:07:50 AM Link | Quote
These utilities will help you remap your keyboard any way you want it... they support all NT-based Windows OSes, 2000 and up. =D

I've used SharpKeys to move stuff around and edit keycodes, and also MSKLC for the individual characters on the keys themselves.

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Posted on 04-06-10 01:16:06 AM (last edited by MilesHayashi at 04-05-10 10:20 PM) Link | Quote
I remember using the MS Keyboard Layout Creator long ago before I purchased and imported british keyboards, I made use of the alt-gr key in those days and I remapped the '\' to the 'z' key when a user holds down the alt-gr key. And I wasn't sure if sharpkeys was Windows 7 compatible so I had to ask and make sure

However, I couldn't find the right-click menu key listed as an available key when I looked through the 'Map this key (From key):' section, unless the key has a different name?

Edit: I found it! I apparently wasn't paying attention to the Type Key button, silly me.

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Posted on 04-06-10 01:19:42 AM Link | Quote
Ahh, that's “Application (E0_5D)”. Also, for some reason, the §/± key is marked as “Unknown: 0x0056 (00_56)” in SharpKeys, too. =P

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Posted on 04-06-10 01:23:03 AM (last edited by MilesHayashi at 04-05-10 10:30 PM) Link | Quote
And I just edited my post before your reply came in, what fast timing!

And yes I just stumbled upon that setting before you could post your response.

Now I can remap it to the 'micro symbol' key, but what if I want to remap the key multiple times, like say I wanted to press the key for a different symbol if I were to hold down the shift key and/or the alt-gr key?

Edit: Sharpkeys is telling me that I typed a key that it doesn't know about, of course it does say (E0_205D) when I held the alt-gr key and pressed the menu key. Any way to get around it or I can't map my key this way?

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Posted on 04-06-10 01:31:10 AM Link | Quote
You'll need MSKLC for that, unfortunately... since you can't edit what the keycode itself generates from SharpKeys...

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Posted on 04-06-10 01:52:29 AM Link | Quote
I looked carefully in the 'MSKLC' utility and didn't see a way to map the menu key action when holding down alt-gr, since the menu key wasn't listed in the picture diagram.

So then I'm not going to be able to map the menu key when holding down the alt-gr key and shift key?
Unless I overlooked something in Sharpkeys or MSKLC?

Sorry I keep bringing up this thread to the top.

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Posted on 04-06-10 01:55:22 AM (last edited by Schala at 04-05-10 10:56 PM) Link | Quote
In MSKLC, make sure that under “View → Options”, “Show all shift states by default” is checked. =D

It's also handy if you want to edit more advanced features, like dead keys or caps lock states.

Edit: Yea, AltGr is the same as Ctrl-Alt, btw... =P

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Posted on 04-06-10 02:00:49 AM (last edited by MilesHayashi at 04-05-10 11:03 PM) Link | Quote
I checked that option too, but I'm still not presented with a way to edit the Windows Logo key and the Menu key, I will printscreen what I'm talking about in a moment when this post is finished being written.

Edit: Printscreened and uploaded to my 'BunnyPile', here's a screenshot:
(Caution, 1920 x 1080)
http://www.foxframes.org/bunnypile/key-map-trouble.png

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Posted on 04-06-10 02:07:54 AM Link | Quote
Unfortunately, you've run into one of the limitations of Windows’ keyboard layouts... the Windows logo and menu keys cannot be changed to produce a different character; however, they can be changed using SharpKeys to produce a different scancode (like when I changed the menu key to the §/± key on my Windows keyboard, for example.)

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Posted on 04-06-10 02:16:06 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Schala
Unfortunately, you've run into one of the limitations of Windows’ keyboard layouts... the Windows logo and menu keys cannot be changed to produce a different character; however, they can be changed using SharpKeys to produce a different scancode (like when I changed the menu key to the §/± key on my Windows keyboard, for example.)


Still, I wanted to be able to change what symbol gets produced when the alt-gr key is held down, but I suppose I can live without that key action that I tried to achieve. Thanks for your help Schala, really appreciated!

In the meantime, I'll have to fiddle around with Sharpkeys to see if I can find a manual way of changing that one action I desire, it should be easy to change once I find what I'm looking for in the windows registry.

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Posted on 04-06-10 12:22:06 PM Link | Quote
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Autohotkey is a great program for all this stuff. It can remap keys and has a rather powerful scripting system, so you can program all kinds of combinations and stuff, too. </advertisement>

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