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Posted on 04-01-10 02:29:59 PM Link | Quote
Aprils fool joke, I'm calling it!



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Posted on 04-01-10 02:42:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by midori no kaze
Aprils fool joke, I'm calling it!



Basically this imo.

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Posted on 04-01-10 02:44:37 PM Link | Quote
Ok... I'll be honest.

If this is an April fools joke, then it's amazing and it got me 100%.

And now I really hope it is.

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Posted on 04-01-10 05:46:10 PM Link | Quote
You all act as if the occasional horribly obnoxious gimmick is new. They may not have shown up in the Genesis games too often (your mileage may vary on pretty much everything in Sandopolis act 2), but Sonic 2 GG brought us hang gliders and ride-the-bubble.

They may not seem quite as annoying, but the thought was there.

Also, it's one level. All of the other ones shown appear to be pretty solid.
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Posted on 04-01-10 06:50:10 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Skreeny
You all act as if the occasional horribly obnoxious gimmick is new. They may not have shown up in the Genesis games too often (your mileage may vary on pretty much everything in Sandopolis act 2), but Sonic 2 GG brought us hang gliders and ride-the-bubble.

They may not seem quite as annoying, but the thought was there.

Also, it's one level. All of the other ones shown appear to be pretty solid.

I'm not sure what your point is here. This isn't something trivial like Sonic's eye color, this is a level in a video game that doesn't look remotely fun to play. Just because bad gimmicks aren't a new concept doesn't mean we should accept them in today's games.

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Posted on 04-01-10 09:16:51 PM Link | Quote

That Mine Cart level makes me want to hurl. There is a little thing called "Speed" Sega. Stop fucking up the equation~!

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Posted on 04-01-10 09:35:46 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Bitmap
That Mine Cart level makes me want to hurl. There is a little thing called "Speed" Sega. Stop fucking up the equation~!

Sonic games aren't all about speed.

Go play Death Egg Zone in Sonic and Knuckles and tell me you just need to run fast to beat it. I dare you. Sonic games are platformers. They involve jumping from platform to platform. If the player is good, they get to go fast. If they suck, they need ot take their time.

And while that level does like like a retarded gimmick, it'll probably be easier on the PS3 or Wii that the 360 where they need to use the trigger buttons.

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Posted on 04-01-10 09:38:16 PM Link | Quote

^^^ I forgot all about that. I guess I am just so used to holding right in Sonic games.

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Posted on 04-01-10 09:43:09 PM (last edited by midori no kaze at 04-01-10 06:48 PM) Link | Quote
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Posted on 04-01-10 09:59:54 PM (last edited by Reimu at 04-01-10 07:01 PM) Link | Quote
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The problem isn't holding right to win, nor even the screen tilting. The problem is that the level itself is horrible! (and the physics that go along with it)

Put actual timing jumps and better designed obstacles to control your speed and you have a good even if simple mine cart level. Add loops and very innovative riddles if you want to use gimmicks.

Put spring boards (specially convined with those physics), Big Rigs physics, and pretty much everything that is in the video and you get one of the worst levels in existence.

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Posted on 04-02-10 01:03:21 AM Link | Quote

It's a stupid gimmick. Sonic should not be in a mine cart.

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Posted on 04-02-10 01:10:08 AM Link | Quote
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It's a stupid gimmick. Sonic should not be in a mine cart.

Er-hem.
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Posted on 04-02-10 03:09:58 AM Link | Quote
Yes but that level only had the mine cart intermittently for short periods of time which is how it should have been done if at all, not THE ENTIRE ACT. Plus the gameplay was actually fun and not atrocious. Also, I have never played that game, but that level looks a lot more fun to play and less broken than the one I just saw for Sonic 4.

Plus I am not OMG SUPER HARDCORE SONIC FAN! EVERYTHING MUST BE EXACT CLONE OF SONIC ONE OR ELSE FAIL! Fuck I was perfectly fine with Shadow the Hedgehog AND Sonic 3D Blast. I give Sonic games a lot of leeway. Frankly I don't see why everyone is so uptight over classic Sonic. They are just games like anything else, not gods. And yes I grew up loving Sonic 3 & Knuckles just like the rest of you, but I don't fucking worship it. The classic Sonic games were far from perfect just like any other game, but now since there hasn't been a decent sonic game since that one, all of a sudden ALL SONIC MUST COPY IT EXACTLY BECAUSE NOTHING CAN EVER BE BETTER! I mean really?

Personally, I really don't care. My only requirement for Sonic games is that they are fun to play, or at least mostly fun, and preferably have kickass music. Sonic 4 can use all the gimmicks its wants, update sonic any way it pleases, give him *gasp* LONGER QUILLS and put sonic in a freaking mine cart, and I really don't care. They just need to ACTUALLY BE LEVELS THAT ARE FUN TO PLAY!

Sorry but that level looks VERY badly designed to the point where getting through it would be an absolute chore. I don't want to constantly get stuck in a level after rotating my screen around awkwardly while just trying to get Sonic to JUMP! So far the physics for this game look like shit, and if the gameplay and controls suck ass, then so does the game. This is true with ANY GAME and just because its a sonic game in the 2d style doesn't excuse from bad game design. Now if I play this and it turns out being a blast, then awesome, but right now I haven't seen anything to get my hopes up over.


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Posted on 04-02-10 03:43:19 AM Link | Quote
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Posted on 04-03-10 04:18:43 AM Link | Quote

I never played those games. Only the Sonic games on the Genesis.

Christ. My bad.

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Posted on 04-03-10 05:10:30 AM Link | Quote
Fun fact.

IIRC you CAN hold right to win Emerald Hill act 1 in Sonic 2. :V

And in 30 seconds because lolspeedshoes

(I still like that level though. its music.)

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Posted on 04-03-10 08:41:40 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tyty
IIRC you CAN hold right to win Emerald Hill act 1 in Sonic 2. :V



Doesn't seem to work, I just tried it on my old genesis, you run half-way through the level and then hit an item-box.

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Posted on 04-03-10 06:49:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Girlydragon
Originally posted by Tyty
IIRC you CAN hold right to win Emerald Hill act 1 in Sonic 2. :V



Doesn't seem to work, I just tried it on my old genesis, you run half-way through the level and then hit an item-box.

You can jump too

I'm talking more "Don't let go of right" than "Only push right"

Happens on Sonic Advance 2 in that video. In order to use the wall spring to get up, you need to be at the tip, which is to the left.

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Posted on 04-03-10 07:09:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tyty
You can jump too



Oh in that case.

I got all the way to chemical plant zone act 1! Then I mistimed a small hump and hit a wall. : <

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Posted on 04-07-10 06:30:28 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tyty
Originally posted by Bitmap
That Mine Cart level makes me want to hurl. There is a little thing called "Speed" Sega. Stop fucking up the equation~!

Sonic games aren't all about speed.

Go play Death Egg Zone in Sonic and Knuckles and tell me you just need to run fast to beat it. I dare you. Sonic games are platformers. They involve jumping from platform to platform. If the player is good, they get to go fast. If they suck, they need ot take their time.

And while that level does like like a retarded gimmick, it'll probably be easier on the PS3 or Wii that the 360 where they need to use the trigger buttons.


seconded

SEGA and their gimmicks, im hoping to see some polish on this.

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