Jul -- NSMB Hacking (Archive): Mario Vs. Luigi stage hacking

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Posted on 03-17-10 09:06:00 AM

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Not sure...
I still have to finish the 3d texture edition, but there's one format i dont know how to compress...
I think i'll release it without supporting all the formats.

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Posted on 03-17-10 01:45:52 PM

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well how long will it take? I think we can all wait another month or so to have it perfected.

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Posted on 03-18-10 12:36:26 AM (last edited by Cataclysm at 03-17-10 09:36 PM)

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I was hoping it would be out in about half a month...

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Posted on 03-18-10 12:55:54 AM

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You can build it yourself now if you really want it

Anyways, what was this topic about again? I'm lost.

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Posted on 03-18-10 01:44:24 AM

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Originally posted by krutomisi
You can build it yourself now if you really want it

Anyways, what was this topic about again? I'm lost.

What do you mean by "Build it yourself"? And this topic is about Mario vs. Luigi stage Hacking.

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Posted on 03-18-10 01:50:59 AM (last edited by krutomisi at 03-17-10 11:04 PM)

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http://code.google.com/p/nsmb-editor/source/checkout

^ it's open source, so you can compile the current build.
I think some 3d stuff wouldn't be working if you did that, but I don't think it would be missed.

Originally posted by dirbaio
that web page there's a copy of the DS firmware but converted to a .nds image.

Are you sure that's a good idea? It has the possibility of being really cool or really bad.

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Posted on 03-18-10 04:35:15 AM

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Originally posted by krutomisi
http://code.google.com/p/nsmb-editor/source/checkout

^ it's open source, so you can compile the current build.
I think some 3d stuff wouldn't be working if you did that, but I don't think it would be missed.

Originally posted by dirbaio
that web page there's a copy of the DS firmware but converted to a .nds image.

Are you sure that's a good idea? It has the possibility of being really cool or really bad.

Thanks. It will be useful for now.

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Posted on 03-19-10 02:49:56 AM

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Do vines work in multiplayer and can you change the sprite type(e.g. Blue koopa to Red koopa)?

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Posted on 03-19-10 04:49:41 PM

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I havent tested them, but I think they should work if you place them direcly. What probably doesnt work is the ? block that spawns a vine, because that's a sprite.

And yes, it is possible to change sprite data.

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Posted on 03-21-10 10:22:45 PM

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Do invisible blocks work in multiplayer?

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Posted on 03-21-10 11:19:38 PM

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Cataclysm, stop asking so many questions.
No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!

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Posted on 03-22-10 12:10:27 AM (last edited by Cataclysm at 03-21-10 09:12 PM)

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Originally posted by Camewel
Cataclysm, stop asking so many questions.
No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!

Hey, let me ask you. How much do you know about M vs. L hacking?!?!? I havn't found the answers to these questions on any thread. This "No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!"

doesn't answer any of my questions. And not everything works. Springs and vines that come out of ? blocks don't work.
And who told you to tell me to stop asking questions about M vs. L hacking?!?!?

P.S. I already know that adding and removing sprites do not work.

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Posted on 03-22-10 06:12:51 AM

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Originally posted by Cataclysm
Originally posted by Camewel
Cataclysm, stop asking so many questions.
No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!

Hey, let me ask you. How much do you know about M vs. L hacking?!?!? I havn't found the answers to these questions on any thread. This "No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!"

doesn't answer any of my questions. And not everything works. Springs and vines that come out of ? blocks don't work.
And who told you to tell me to stop asking questions about M vs. L hacking?!?!?

P.S. I already know that adding and removing sprites do not work.

How much do I know? I was the one who discovered how to edit the levels and I've been doing it for just under a year, so I know quite a bit. And as long as the block in question doesn't spawn a sprite, it will work. So stop it now plz. Kthxbai.

While I'm here, there's something I found out with the star sprite. You can't add or remove any stars or the level doesn't load. It must either be a checksum, or that each level has an engine to choose one of X stars and if you change it, it can't function. So leave those stars alone.

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Posted on 03-22-10 04:11:58 PM

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Originally posted by Camewel
Originally posted by Cataclysm
Originally posted by Camewel
Cataclysm, stop asking so many questions.
No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!

Hey, let me ask you. How much do you know about M vs. L hacking?!?!? I havn't found the answers to these questions on any thread. This "No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!"

doesn't answer any of my questions. And not everything works. Springs and vines that come out of ? blocks don't work.
And who told you to tell me to stop asking questions about M vs. L hacking?!?!?

P.S. I already know that adding and removing sprites do not work.

How much do I know? I was the one who discovered how to edit the levels and I've been doing it for just under a year, so I know quite a bit. And as long as the block in question doesn't spawn a sprite, it will work. So stop it now plz. Kthxbai.

While I'm here, there's something I found out with the star sprite. You can't add or remove any stars or the level doesn't load. It must either be a checksum, or that each level has an engine to choose one of X stars and if you change it, it can't function. So leave those stars alone.

I'm sorry if I made you mad, Camewel. I just didn't have time to test some blocks out so I decided to ask some questions here while creating levels. Sorry.

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Posted on 03-22-10 06:02:37 PM (last edited by dirbaio at 03-23-10 05:14 PM)

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yeah.

I understand you ask so much questions. It's a pain to test yourself all the blocks, specially if you don't have two ds's (like me

), and you have to send a patch to a friend, have him put it on his flashcart and test it the next day with him, seeing his disappointed face when he sees only a black screen, not understanding why he should have downloaded, applied and copied to his r4 the patch for only a black screen... That's why I havent played much with MvsL hacking...

I think we should compile a list of what works and what doesn't.

=== WORKS ===

OBJECTS: Adding, deleting, resizing, moving, changing type
SPRITES: Moving, changing type and data
VIEWS: Resizing, moving
PROGRESS PATHS: Moving, resizing
ENTRANCES: All. Doors not tested
Vines (NOT the one that comes out of ? block)

=== DOESNT WORK ===
SPRITES: Adding or deleting
STARS: Adding, deleting, changing sprite data
? blocks with vine and springboard
Changing sprite sets, backgrounds, tilesets.
Mini pipes.
Doors. It seems you can come out of them, but they don't animate.
Adding views.

=== HAVENT TESTED ===
(If someone tests one of these please report if they work or not here.)
Invisible blocks

=== TO BE INVESTIGATED (It's possible but its not clear how) ===
Entrances to other levels.
DS Download Play (seems to depend on your firmware, works on some ds lites or not).
If you report it works or not with your DS, please try to report here when did you buy it, and your firmware version using the pictochat trick: Launch the NDS with an official game inside, go to Pictochat, take it out, see what color the screen turns into.

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Posted on 03-22-10 09:32:07 PM

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Originally posted by Cataclysm
Originally posted by Camewel
Originally posted by Cataclysm
Originally posted by Camewel
Cataclysm, stop asking so many questions.
No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!

Hey, let me ask you. How much do you know about M vs. L hacking?!?!? I havn't found the answers to these questions on any thread. This "No new sprites.
No changing the tileset.
Anything else is okay, now stop asking so many already answered questions!"

doesn't answer any of my questions. And not everything works. Springs and vines that come out of ? blocks don't work.
And who told you to tell me to stop asking questions about M vs. L hacking?!?!?

P.S. I already know that adding and removing sprites do not work.

How much do I know? I was the one who discovered how to edit the levels and I've been doing it for just under a year, so I know quite a bit. And as long as the block in question doesn't spawn a sprite, it will work. So stop it now plz. Kthxbai.

While I'm here, there's something I found out with the star sprite. You can't add or remove any stars or the level doesn't load. It must either be a checksum, or that each level has an engine to choose one of X stars and if you change it, it can't function. So leave those stars alone.

I'm sorry if I made you mad, Camewel. I just didn't have time to test some blocks out so I decided to ask some questions here while creating levels. Sorry.

It's okay, I've met much more annoying people than you. Seriously, one guy demanded that the shiny version of Gyrados was purple for literally months before someone had the sense to delete the topic (:O). I'm just glad you calmed down in the face of reason.

Dirb, (hope you don't mind the abbreviation, but I like abbreviations

) I tested some of those and Treeki creared up others. I'm working on another.

Originally posted by Dirb
=== DOESNT WORK ===
SPRITES: Adding or deleting

Adding and deleting works fine for me, only different sprites don't work.

Originally posted by Dirb
STARS: Adding or deleting

Or changing any sprite data

Originally posted by Dirb
Changing tilesets.

I just about got this

Originally posted by Dirb
=== HAVENT TESTED ===
Doors

You can come out, but not go in. And the door won't open.

Originally posted by Dirb
Adding views and entrances to them

You die when you try and switch. The screen goes black as if you were switching views, but it comes up with the same view and you die.

Originally posted by Dirb
=== TO BE INVESTIGATED (It's possible but its not clear how) ===
Entrances to other levels.

Originally posted by Treeki
If you use a higher area number than the amount of areas that exist in the level, the "area pointer" will overflow into the next level. Try this out: create an exit in 1-1 that points to area 4, entrance 0. It will take you to the first area of 1-2 - but all entrances/exits in it will be broken since the game still thinks you're in 1-1.

...wow. Long post.

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Posted on 03-22-10 09:34:16 PM

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Originally posted by dirbaio
yeah.

I understand you ask so much questions. It's a pain to test yourself all the blocks, specially if you don't have two ds's (like me ), and you have to send a patch to a friend, have him put it on his flashcart and test it the next day with him, seeing his disappointed face when he sees only a black screen, not understanding why he should have downloaded, applied and copied to his r4 the patch for only a black screen... That's why I havent played much with MvsL hacking...

I think we should compile a list of what works and what doesn't.

=== WORKS ===

OBJECTS: Adding, deleting, resizing, moving, changing type
SPRITES: Moving, changing type and data
VIEWS: Resizing, moving
PROGRESS PATHS: Moving, resizing
ENTRANCES: All. Doors not tested
Vines (NOT the one that comes out of ? block)

=== DOESNT WORK ===
SPRITES: Adding or deleting
STARS: Adding or deleting
? blocks with vine and springboard
Changing sprite sets, backgrounds, tilesets.
Mini pipes.

=== HAVENT TESTED ===
(If someone tests one of these please report if they work or not here.)
Doors
Invisible blocks
Adding views and entrances to them
Adding progress paths for the new views

=== TO BE INVESTIGATED (It's possible but its not clear how) ===
Entrances to other levels.
DS Download Play (seems to depend on your firmware, works on some ds lites or not).
If you report it works or not with your DS, please try to report here when did you buy it, and your firmware version using the pictochat trick: Launch the NDS with an official game inside, go to Pictochat, take it out, see what color the screen turns into.

Mini pipes work only if you select "pipe facing up". It will act like a mini pipe but will work in multiplayer.

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Posted on 03-22-10 09:39:51 PM

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Oh yeah, water doesn't work either. It turns up as some white object and the second you touch it the screen freezes.

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Posted on 03-22-10 09:47:34 PM

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i do remember testing that myself and having fun throwing myself on it for no good reason :>

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