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Posted on 02-04-10 07:42:46 PM Link | Quote
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I'm all fine with DLC, assuming the content is made after the release.

Instead of "HEY WE HOLD STUFF BACK FOR MORE MONEY LOL".

Even worse when you only download a little crack to unlock what's already on your disc.
That reminds me of the first Professor Layton game. For a while, they released new weekly puzzles over Nintendo WFC - but they were already in the game data, they just weren't available normally.

At least those were free though. Charging extra for something that's already in the game (or available on release) is just ridiculous.

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Posted on 02-04-10 07:44:47 PM Link | Quote

I'm actually ok with this episodic thing if they make it like Sonic 3. I'm pretty sure Cpu already explained it, but it should play like a full game and have some form of massive final boss. I'm more or less banking on this. I don't think SEGA would do it any other way.

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Posted on 02-04-10 07:47:14 PM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by Sgaagar the Barbarian
I'm actually ok with this episodic thing if they make it like Sonic 3. I'm pretty sure Cpu already explained it, but it should play like a full game and have some form of massive final boss. I'm more or less banking on this. I don't think SEGA would do it any other way.
...We're thinking of the same SEGA, right? Because I think they're definitely immoral enough to do something like this. :\

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Posted on 02-04-10 07:52:19 PM Link | Quote

I'm just basing it on their mentioning of Sonic 3 & Knuckles so I'd assume they're keeping that in mind... Though you never know. :/

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Posted on 02-04-10 08:03:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sgaagar the Barbarian
SONIC MEGAMIX, bla bla bla

Have you played megamix?
I think the hooming attack worked really well in 2D if you ask me, megamixed proved it. =)

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I have never really been a big sonic (read: video game sonic) fan. (But I am a big SatAM fan.)
But I have played most 2D games a few 3D games.
I have never beaten 1-3&K, yes, I'm dead serious. There just never was much for me to keep playing. On the other hand I have beaten all three advance games and both rush games. Why I don't think they are the best games on the planet they still where great fun.

I just don't get why the fan base is full of pissy whiners. First of all, the jump to 3D will ALWAYS change how the game series will play. A good example is metroid series, it went from 2D action/exploration to first person shooter/exploration. Sure, some people think it was ruined forever, but I disagree, it was just different.
Sonics jump to 3D was quite good from what I have heard, both adventure one and two sounds great from most people I have asked/heard from. If you don't like how the series changed though, you don't have to keep playing it.

Another point is the voice acting from what I have heard. As long as it fits the character it should be all good. It's not like dubbed voice acting will ever be better then the japanes... though, sonic might be a special case as he had very different personality in japan and the rest of the world when he first hit the market. Still though, if it fits then it should pass without people bitching so much.

I also don't get why people complain about more characters. I can understand in cases such as big the cat and tails/eggman in adventure 2 that have so different gameplay... but, in most cases more characters mean more ways to play the game, and it will also add to it that more people can find the character that is the most fun for them to play with. A perfect example is advance 3 that not only have many characters, you team them up two and two to get a special ability/change the moveset a bit. (My preferred combo is Amy/sonic to get high speed AND speed boost special! ) Sonic 3&K had three play able characters. Knuckles and tails had the option (or where forced) to take another path through the same level, not only making it have more replay value, but also giving you the option to play the way you want. Granted, I never liked tails paths as they involved flying... and flying is soooo zeta slow!
But hey, I did not have to play as tails so, go me!

And now here we are, people bitching at the next new sonic game... before it has even been shown!
I think Sega payed to much attention to what some fans wanted when they took out this game. But on the other hand, not much have been shown so, you can only just wait and see how it turns out. I have liked all 2D sonic games so I think I'm confident in buying this for wiiware once it's out. The only thing that sticks out as odd to me now is, like cpybasic13 pointed out, the episode 1 in the title. So this could turn out to be rather expensive for not much play... BUT! It could also be set up as .hack// series of games where there was several full games but a overall story that took place over all of them. They used the same game engine but, there was new themes (and a few new music tracks) and some minor engine upgrade between releases. But they where still good and long stand alone games... So I would not really mind if sonic 4 is set up the same way to be honest! =)


The bottom line (and my point) is that one should not be bothered by the freaking details. As long as the game is fun and gives what the description says then I don't see the problem. In fact, why bitch about shit before it's even out? I'm a huge zelda fan, yet I was skeptical for three recent games, WW, PH and spirit tracks... but, I waited with my judgment until after I played it. And if the game does not look good enough for you to buy it and give it a try, or you just lost faith in the developers. Then that's fine, don't buy the games. But please don't bitch about it everywhere, no one gives a shit and it's just a pain in the eye!

That is all! ^^
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Posted on 02-04-10 08:20:06 PM Link | Quote
please remember that titling something "COOL GAME: EPISODE ONE" does not necessarily mean that the game is going to be gimped and/or sucktastic.



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Posted on 02-04-10 09:04:43 PM (last edited by Shadic at 02-04-10 06:05 PM) Link | Quote
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Posted on 02-04-10 09:07:03 PM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by Shadic

Oh man. Brb loading SA2B into the Wii-- oh wait, no GC memcard. Fuck. T_T

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Posted on 02-04-10 09:14:36 PM Link | Quote
For some reason the main themes in most 3D sonic games have been great! :3

I'm in love with crush 40 to be honest, great music!

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Posted on 02-04-10 09:15:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Shadic
Originally posted by Xkeeper
please remember that titling something "COOL GAME: EPISODE ONE" does not necessarily mean that the game is going to be gimped and/or sucktastic.

That too. It's an idea that could swing both ways, honestly. We could end up with another S3&K, or bullshit designed to steal our money.
I've actually been thinking: what if it just ends up being cheaper than a full game to compensate for being only one episode? That seems like it'd be the most sensible route to me (aside from releasing the full game at once, obviously).


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Posted on 02-04-10 09:20:20 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 02-04-10 09:22:42 PM Link | Quote

I was thinking it would be $10. Considering it's episode content and everything.

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Posted on 02-04-10 09:25:40 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Shadic
Is 'shorter quill's' REALLY that important to you? I mean seriously.

You know what Sonic looked like the last main title I enjoyed?


OMFG HIS SHOES ARE SILLY LOOKING THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS.


Hey Shadic. I liked SA2(B). It's quite possibly the best 3D Sonic I've played, but that's not classic Sonic. Totally different game and totally different style.

My point was if they're going to make a 'Sonic 4,' it ought to be done properly. I know all of you have this 'it's just another game' mindset about you, but I don't. This is Sonic 4, and it needs to live up to the gems that were 1, 2, and 3(&K) in my mind. Those who say it will never happen ought to learn to have a little hope for once. I'm not being anal about every pixel, but the least they could do is make an honest attempt at staying true to the classic game rather than making a totally new one.

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Posted on 02-04-10 09:28:16 PM (last edited by midori no kaze at 02-04-10 06:28 PM) Link | Quote
Problem is we don't know how it's set up yet. So we really can't talk about costs to be honest. If it's set up like .hack// game series (like I said a few posts ago) then I would not mind if it was full price. :/

Originally posted by Sgaagar the Barbarian
My point was if they're going to make a 'Sonic 4,' it ought to be done properly. I know all of you have this 'it's just another game' mindset about you, but I don't. This is Sonic 4, and it needs to live up to the gems that were 1, 2, and 3(&K) in my mind. Those who say it will never happen ought to learn to have a little hope for once. I'm not being anal about every pixel, but the least they could do is make an honest attempt at staying true to the classic game rather than making a totally new one.

There is a slight problem...

They might want to sell the game to their new fans too, you know. =)


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Posted on 02-04-10 09:28:20 PM (last edited by Sgaagar the Barbarian at 02-04-10 06:31 PM) Link | Quote

Originally posted by Bitmap
I was thinking it would be $10. Considering it's episode content and everything.


That actually sounds about right to me. I can't imagine anything on WiiWare going above $20 to be honest...

Originally posted by midori no kaze
They might want to sell the game to their new fans too, you know. =)



The only issue with that is said fans enjoy the classic series... SEGA seems to forget that a lot.

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$10 makes sense. I think the only 1000+ Wii points games were Sin and Punishment and maybe something else.

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Posted on 02-04-10 09:33:06 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by FirePhoenix
$10 makes sense. I think the only 1000+ Wii points games were Sin and Punishment and maybe something else.


Megaman 9?

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Posted on 02-04-10 09:34:04 PM Link | Quote

Yea, I'm basing it on MM9 as well... But I also haven't seen anything above $10 on there.

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