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Posted on 01-20-10 12:30:07 AM

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Americans kill the ones who at least attempt to consider trying to seek progress, back to 1800s? Yes we can! :specialed:

Now seriously, Brown isn't even that conservative (probably more liberal than a good portion of the senate) so it isn't that big of a loss, except for, you know, health care reform...

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Posted on 01-20-10 12:45:55 AM

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Hooray now we can get even less done in Congress.

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Wouldn't America be so much better if we were to abolish the senate ... or are these just crazy thoughts of mine?

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Posted on 01-20-10 01:22:11 AM (last edited by Shadic at 01-19-10 10:22 PM)

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It's proof that if you run a fucking horrid campaign, that you can't expect to win even if every other factor is in your favor. :specialed:

Democrats need a spine, some balls, and leadership with better charisma than a fuckin' broom.

Congrats Coakley - You were perhaps the worst candidate the Democrats could have hoped for.

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Posted on 01-20-10 03:55:26 AM

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We honestly just need to get rid of the filibuster, though what would be even better is if it stopped being "the party not in power screams NO NO NO NO at everything the party in power does".

Rather than actually offer any solutions, they just scream and shout NO NO NO at every single thing.

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Posted on 01-20-10 03:59:50 AM

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anecdote re: health care: Yeah, arguing we don't need reform is all fine and dandy, except for the part where I know someone very personally who's been hit pretty bad with it.

Namely, my mother. $15,000 in medical bills because of something with my sister. $15,000.

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So which political pundit is going to be the first to use the "Ted Kennedy must be rolling in his grave right about now" line?

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Posted on 01-20-10 11:21:57 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
So which political pundit is going to be the first to use the "Ted Kennedy must be rolling in his grave right about now" line?

Probably the ones that are saying 'even Cape Cod, his home community, vote Republican majority'.

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Posted on 01-20-10 11:25:01 AM (last edited by FieryIce at 01-20-10 08:26 AM)

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So which political pundit is going to be the first to use the "Ted Kennedy must be rolling in his grave right about now" line?

I think I already saw Nate Silver saying it.

And I still think abolishing the senate would be good for the country ... it would actually make it more democratic. Wyoming's 500,000 people are given way too much power compared to the 36m Californians...

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Posted on 01-20-10 02:34:46 PM

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Originally posted by Hiryuu
Originally posted by Colin
So which political pundit is going to be the first to use the "Ted Kennedy must be rolling in his grave right about now" line?

Probably the ones that are saying 'even Cape Cod, his home community, vote Republican majority'.

Wonder how piss-poor a job you need to do in order to lose a Democratic stronghold.

Either that or her opponent ran some great ads and made her look like a monster. Or...

Gergen also pointed to a major sports gaffe that might have hurt Coakley's image in Red Sox nation. In a recent radio interview, she suggested that former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling is a Yankees fan.

"When she was clueless the other day about who Curt Schilling was ... you can imagine what that did," Gergen said.

...That did it.

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Posted on 01-20-10 02:46:37 PM

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Originally posted by Colin
Originally posted by Hiryuu
Originally posted by Colin
So which political pundit is going to be the first to use the "Ted Kennedy must be rolling in his grave right about now" line?

Probably the ones that are saying 'even Cape Cod, his home community, vote Republican majority'.

Wonder how piss-poor a job you need to do in order to lose a Democratic stronghold.

Either that or her opponent ran some great ads and made her look like a monster. Or...

Gergen also pointed to a major sports gaffe that might have hurt Coakley's image in Red Sox nation. In a recent radio interview, she suggested that former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling is a Yankees fan.

"When she was clueless the other day about who Curt Schilling was ... you can imagine what that did," Gergen said.

...That did it.

And when she (or her campaign) spells MA as "Massachusettes" during an ad

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Some of the editorials this morning are lol.

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Posted on 01-20-10 04:54:19 PM

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Supakitsune's post

Originally posted by Hiryuu
Some of the editorials this morning are lol.

I fucking died.

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Posted on 01-20-10 05:16:13 PM

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The things I've seen going around point that the assumed winner for the Democrats actually got primaried out due to the whole "eh, no way he could lose" mentality, then the actual winner basically did nothing but fuck up her campaign over and over

I'd read the article you posted but I got as far as the title before it stopped loading (aparrently our neighbors aren't very political)

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Originally posted by Hiryuu
Some of the editorials this morning are lol.

Oh God! The Brown date rape! XD

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Truthfully, I begin to question how many 'Democrats' in the Senate actually are Democrats, as they seem to be less interested in reform and more interested in getting unelected and replaced by Republicans as fast as possible.

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Posted on 01-22-10 03:59:00 PM (last edited by beneficii at 01-22-10 01:33 PM)

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/01/21/filibuster/index.html

My understanding is that the majority of the population supports universal health care in principle, and it is one of the major reasons the Democrats swept both the White House and Congress in 2008, but due to the Senate rules that effectively make you have to have 3/5 of the body to pass controversial measures (to beat the threat of a filibuster), a few Senators in the Democratic Caucus were able to use that to their advantage by having all sorts of things added on to the bill and certain things taken off. Many Republicans are saying that they shouldn't try to implement universal health care,--due to polls on the public opinion of "Obama's plan", which the pollers will not neutrally explain to the people whose opinions they're taking, because that would be going against the American people--, and making Democrats out to be radicals for it, even though that was one of the major reasons they were elected. My understanding, though, is that most of the opposition to "Obama's plan" comes from either not understanding it (such as from the scaremongering that occurred in the town halls back in the summer) or from all the crap that was put on it, such as the special breaks for Nebraska so the Senate could get the required 3/5 majority.

Now that the Democratic Caucus is 1 seat short of the 3/5 of the body, any attempts at implementing universal health care are likely dead, because the Senate will vote down any attempts to remove or weaken the filibuster (even if Joe Biden comes into the Senate and allows a simple majority to decide it). Now the pendulum will swing back to the Republicans in 2010* because of the ineffectiveness of the Democratic Caucus, and back and forth it will probably swing for a while. And a majority of Americans will still favor implementation of universal health care, but nothing will be done.

* To clarify, I think the Democrats will still come out with a small majority in the Senate in 2010, with the information I have right now.

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