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Cooper (atty for anti-gay side) quotes Obama that marriage is between and man and a woman.
Marriage has ancient and powerful religious connotations as Obama says.
Judge Walker said if obama’s parents had lived in VA, their marriage would not have been legal.
Cooper said, “race has never been a restriction” enshrined in marriage.
People in the overflow room laughed.

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Originally posted by Sukasa

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Originally posted by Tweaker

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It makes me smile to know that those ignorant dipshits are finally getting slapped with a bit of a reality check.

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Agreed, it'll be a good win... assuming the judges are reasonable folk.

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B = Boies
T = Tam
B: Document says, “Science proves that homosexuality is a changeable sexual preference.” What science were you referring to?
T: I did not write this.
B: Do you know what science is being referred to?
T: Yes. Have you heard of Dr. Spitzer? Used to very prominent physician who in 1973 who was one of persons who promote that homosexuality is not a disease. Because of that, what I learned is that homosexuality is not a disease, just a part of normal human behavior. That’s what I learned. Later on, the same Dr. Spitzer produced evidence that some homosexuals did turn back and return to heterosexuality. Changeable sexual preference. It is not genetically wired.
B: Did you understand that Dr. Spitzer not genetically wired?
T: No. Francis Collins said that. He’s the one who mapped the human genome.
B: Does Collins believe that sexual orientation can be changed?
T: I saw it on the NARTH site (that’s where Ryan from yesterday went to have conversion therapy).
B: You think NARTH is an objective website?
T: Yes. It’s reliable.
B: What does American Psychological Association say about this?
T: I don’t know.
B: You never tried to find out?
T: No.
B: You believe that NARTH is a good source?
T: Yes. I rely on the NARTH.

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B: Second document which is from 1man1woman dot net, more specific. Says that if same sex marriage passes it will lead to incest, pedophilia and polygamy. Do you agree with that?
T: Yes.
B: That’s what you told people to get them to vote for Prop. 8?
T: Yes.
B: Your paper says that after Netherlands legalized SS marriage, Netheralands legalized incest and polygamy. Do you believe that?
T: Same sex marriage may not have led to legalization of incest and polygamy, but it happened.
B: Who told you that?
T: I found it on the Internet. I did not write this that polygamy was legalized in 2005.
B: You put it out there to convince people to vote for Prop. 8. Did you ever look up the law?
T: Yes, there was different documents that shows that’s true.
B: So after Netherlands legalized same sex marriage, legalized polygamy and incest.
T: I’m not sure about incest. That may have been legal before same sex marriage passed.
B: If that’s the case, then it has nothing to do with same sex marriage.
T: Yes, but it shows that if countries are loose with sex it leads to this…

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B: Do you agree that discrimination is on its face with Prop. 8?
M: No. It defines marriage as between man and woman.
B: You’ve said that 8 treats gays and lesbians differently. As a political scientist, is it discrimination?
M: Differently, but not necessarily in the law.
B: Not as lawyer, but as political scientist, is there discrimination?
M: Makes a distinction between people so that under that definition it is discrimination
B: Just to tie that down, this is discrimination?
M: By that definition, yes

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