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Posted on 01-04-10 02:33:43 PM

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I wish I knew how to do GUI apps. The computer science programme here only teaches us command-line stuff of the style that people could do back in the '70s

I eventually got a mini-class on it, but it was from someone at the school who barely knew English, and I didn't know any Arabic, so I didn't learn much.

Exactly! I hate it so much when tutorials and such focus entirely on command line apps. That stuff drives me insane.

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Just wondering, what toolkit do you use for GUI stuff in Python?

wxPython's the only one I've ever made anything with. I haven't tried making any really complicated interfaces with it, though. I briefly tried TkInter, but it seemed rather low-level and I had trouble getting the hang of it.

I used wxPython before, but it confused me. I far prefer PyQt4, plus it has a lot more stuff. It's a pain to get set up on OS X though

I haven't tried Tkinter but I've seen apps made in it, I dislike it because it feels even less native on Windows than GTK (and GTK is bad already).

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Posted on 01-04-10 02:46:24 PM

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Maybe I should try Python sometime

Python is fun! You should try it

I agree. I only voted for it because it was fun, not because I've ever done anything extremely useful with it (I'm not saying that it isn't useful).

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Posted on 01-04-10 02:59:58 PM

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Also, CLI programming doesn't seem very practical to me, unless you're coding for Linux where few people care about GUIs unfortunately.

I mean, who writes DOS programs anymore?

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Terra
Also, CLI programming doesn't seem very practical to me, unless you're coding for Linux where few people care about GUIs unfortunately.

I mean, who writes DOS programs anymore?

Exactly, mostly everything I write is GUI. Even if it's for Linux.

Of course, that might have something to do with the fact that coding GUIs is a pain in most languages

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:02:50 PM (last edited by Terra at 01-04-10 12:03 PM)

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And I don't like the CLI reliance of most Linux distros. It's like hard-core users still think GUIs are for n00bs. I find them more powerful because of easier multitasking and graphical work, like with fonts and such.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:05:24 PM

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Originally posted by Terra
And I don't like the CLI reliance of most Linux distros. It's like hard-core users still think GUIs are for n00bs. I find them more powerful because of easier multitasking and graphical work, like with fonts and such.

I like Linux, but then again I'm weird. I use both the CLI and GUI a lot (especially since I have Linux on my netbook, where keyboard navigation is easier than the touchpad).

But Linux GUIs have been getting a lot better recently. Subpixel font rendering finally looks good and everything seems to work better overall from what I've soon.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:14:37 PM

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I like KDE

GNOME is too Mac-like for my tastes, I guess. I haven't tried Xfce and such.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:15:39 PM

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I like KDE

GNOME is too Mac-like for my tastes, I guess. I haven't tried Xfce and such.

Which KDE? 3.x or 4.x?

I like 3.5 but I really dislike 4.x. I used 4.1 a while ago, it felt way too much like a bad imitation of Vista. I'm not sure if it's improved since then.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:22:26 PM

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Meh, I picked C/C++ even though I suck at it, it's pretty much the only thing I know. QBASIC was fun back in the day but it's just really limited and slow.

I'd like to learn python, but there's nothing I particularly want to do in it that I can't do in C so far.

As for GUI programming, nothing I've made so far has really required it other than a few things I just use SDL for. I kinda prefer the QBASIC style interfaces I tend to make. Clean, intuitive and will probably work on every platform ever and everything is nice and synchronous so it's not a pain in the ass to code.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:26:52 PM

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I didn't like how QBasic would auto-format your code. I DO NOT WANT MY CODE IN ALL CAPS IN MICROSOFT'S FORCED STYLE

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:32:21 PM

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The last time I had computer as a subject was back in school, two years ago. It was a C++ course so, I guess I'm going with that, since I'm most comfortable with it. I had made an arknoid clone as my term project, the examiner was impressed. Needless to say, I got full marks.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:33:06 PM

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Originally posted by Nitin
The last time I had computer as a subject was back in school, two years ago. It was a C++ course so, I guess I'm going with that, since I'm most comfortable with it. I had made an arknoid clone as my term project, the examiner was impressed. Needless to say, I got full marks.

What library did you use for it?

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:34:13 PM (last edited by Terra at 01-04-10 12:34 PM)

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I could try making a game, if I could find someone to do the graphics

I've dabbled in Allegro with C. I tried writing one in Java but found it too hard when I had to make the whole fucking engine too.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:36:18 PM

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I wrote a Mario engine in Python with Pygame a while ago, it was pretty fun and easy to learn

I've heard of Allegro but never used it.

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:39:37 PM

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Originally posted by Treeki
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The last time I had computer as a subject was back in school, two years ago. It was a C++ course so, I guess I'm going with that, since I'm most comfortable with it. I had made an arknoid clone as my term project, the examiner was impressed. Needless to say, I got full marks.

What library did you use for it?

I used graphics.h on turboc++ 3.1. Is that what you're asking?

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Posted on 01-04-10 03:41:50 PM

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I knew about Allegro because it was used to make Zelda Classic. Plus it's more 2D-oriented, unlike OpenGL.

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I'm practicing my PHP, by making various small scripts (like a keno machine, along with other lottery-style games

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I also want to learn Python, so I can make some Python-based scripts for GIMP

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Posted on 01-04-10 06:28:04 PM

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I'm practicing my PHP, by making various small scripts (like a keno machine, along with other lottery-style games )

What's a keno machine?

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I also want to learn Python, so I can make some Python-based scripts for GIMP

I didn't know GIMP used Python for scripts! Maybe I'll have to give it a second look (especially once they add single window mode)

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