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Jul - Gaming - Team Fortress 2 - Balanced Update New poll - New thread - New reply
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Scout
 
14.5% of users, 27 votes (38.0%)
Soldier
 
10.2% of users, 19 votes (26.8%)
Pyro
 
13.4% of users, 25 votes (35.2%)
Demoman
 
7.0% of users, 13 votes (18.3%)
Heavy
 
9.7% of users, 18 votes (25.4%)
Engineer
 
12.4% of users, 23 votes (32.4%)
Medic
 
12.4% of users, 23 votes (32.4%)
Sniper
 
10.2% of users, 19 votes (26.8%)
Spy
 
10.2% of users, 19 votes (26.8%)
Multi-voting is enabled. 71 users have voted.

Eppy37
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Posted on 11-07-09 08:35:34 PM Link | Quote
32 player 2Fort is one big stalemate.

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Posted on 11-07-09 08:47:33 PM Link | Quote
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Yep. TPG is good evidence of this.

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Posted on 11-07-09 10:03:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kles
Originally posted by Sonicandtails
Originally posted by hydrapheetz
Is it bad if I actually enjoy 32/33 player games even though it completely obliterates whatever balance a map may/may not have had? :specialed:

More people does not equal balance changing. If a map is balanced, it's balanced. If both sides are equally good, the map is still balanced.

Uhhh, no, that's not true at all. Map scaling is a major part of map design. Gold Rush is a good example of a map that's reasonably balanced at 24 players, but becomes very difficult to win on offense at 32 players.

Then the map is not balanced. My point is that if the map cannot handle max players, then the map is in fact not balanced to begin with.

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Posted on 11-15-09 05:31:46 PM Link | Quote
having over 100+ hours played since the hat update(s) (I don't reset my stats), the rng decided to be nice and drop a hat for me, for once. I was hoping for the pyro's beanie but the Scotsman's Stove Pipe is good enough, I guess.

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Posted on 11-16-09 05:00:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by hydrapheetz
having over 100+ hours played since the hat update(s) (I don't reset my stats), the rng decided to be nice and drop a hat for me, for once. I was hoping for the pyro's beanie but the Scotsman's Stove Pipe is good enough, I guess.
Lucky you

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Posted on 11-17-09 10:22:55 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Eppy37
2Fort is one big stalemate.


Fixed.


Then the map is not balanced. My point is that if the map cannot handle max players, then the map is in fact not balanced to begin with.

Technically 'max players' is only supposed to be 24 - the only reason you can use 32 is because valve put an official option rather than letting people rely on unofficial SM Hacks. The game performance-nosedives after 24 (as commented by valve in their blog)

Not to mention the ability to set a 32 player max was changed AFTER the Gold Rush Update.

Playing a 32 Player server is like playing roll-the-dice or lowgrav. It may be fun, but don't expect you to be balanced around because it's not the default rules.
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Posted on 11-17-09 02:39:10 PM Link | Quote
Personally I prefer 24+ player games for the sake of higher players. Sure, it's unbalanced to hell (and often a big ol' stalemate), but it's still kind of fun.

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Posted on 12-09-09 08:50:18 PM Link | Quote
Meet the Announcer. Kinda.

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Posted on 12-09-09 09:18:53 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Mordecai
Meet the Announcer. Kinda.


And her assistant. Apparently it's Demoman and Soldier updates soon (Tomorrow?). Hopefully we'll get to unlock their weapons, and If all of this happens, It'll mean Engineer is the only one left. Can't wait for more on this!

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Posted on 12-09-09 10:06:13 PM Link | Quote
methinks I should turn off my Touhou model set if/when the update comes.

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Posted on 12-09-09 10:09:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Mordecai
Meet the Announcer. Kinda.

I love how one person's fanart representation of the announcer ended up becoming canon.

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Posted on 12-10-09 04:19:53 AM (last edited by Pandaren at 12-10-09 01:28 AM) Link | Quote
Yeah, shows that Valve is in good terms with the fans.

Sort of.

EDIT: HOLY SHIT DEMOMAN VS SOLDIER UPDATE HARHAR

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Posted on 12-11-09 12:39:36 AM Link | Quote
Update

Both classes get three new weapons, but the class that kill the other the most GETS A EXTRA WEAPON!


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Posted on 12-11-09 04:32:05 AM Link | Quote
MAGGOTS!

*boom*

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Posted on 12-11-09 04:55:02 AM Link | Quote
and for those that don't like playing as Soldier and Demo, now is the time to rack up your headshots/backstabs

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Posted on 12-11-09 09:01:37 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Eppy37
and for those that don't like playing as Soldier and Demo, now is the time to rack up your headshots/backstabs

Oh yeah, plenty of slow people fighting against eachother.

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Posted on 12-11-09 08:34:20 PM Link | Quote
I've only made 12 contribute kills so far. I wonder when we can get the new items. I had ideas on what they are, but i'm not sure...

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Posted on 12-11-09 09:17:35 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Bob-omb8194
I've only made 12 contribute kills so far. I wonder when we can get the new items. I had ideas on what they are, but i'm not sure...

The 17th is what I'm hearing.
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Posted on 12-11-09 09:59:45 PM Link | Quote
The blog says the 17th.

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Posted on 12-12-09 12:31:55 PM Link | Quote
Seeing combat classes on the server is an amazing change of pace.

It's brilliant - games are being finished, objectives conquered mainly because a team isn't 4-7 Snipers/Spies/Sandman Scouts flailing against 3-4 engineers.

I'm getting some pleasure out of playing Scout, Heavy and Sniper lately - it's fun with the changed popular class dynamics.
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