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Posted on 10-24-09 03:14:44 PM Link | Quote


Not news, more of a debate thread

Anyway, what do you think of copyright and its term lengths?

I think they're way too long in most countries Is it really necessary for copyright to often outlast the author's grandchildren? The world and technology move a lot faster now than they once did, but the world of copyright slows to a crawl. Companies, especially in music and video games, wonder why piracy is so rampant. If you stop selling something and provide no legal way to obtain it, people who want it will use an illegal method of obtaining it. It seems so obvious.

I think the original US copyright term, 14 years, should be reinstated. This will still allow companies to profit from their creations for quite a while, but it will revert works to the public domain in a reasonable time without making technical criminals out of retrogaming addicts.

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Posted on 10-24-09 06:46:16 PM Link | Quote
I personally feel that today's copyright laws are not compatible with today's technology...

No wonder piracy is so rampant, because of these factors:
1. Like Terra says, if a company stops selling a game, software, or music album, then there is no legal means of obtaining that product
2. Some countries, like Russia or Brazil, have a lot of piracy because of the expensive cost of importing software
3. The prohibitive price of some software applications, such as Photoshop, has led some people to pirate it

However, I do not feel that copyright should be entirely abolished, since we need at least some copyright protection...

I feel that 20 years with no renewals, much like patents or trademarks, is far more reasonable than what, 105 years? That's longer than the lifespan of at least 90% of people! -_-

Seriously, they really need to reconsider copyright laws... but Congress here in the US moves really slowly, and many bills keep dying or getting voted down by the Senate or House >_>

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Posted on 10-24-09 06:54:53 PM Link | Quote
Mexico has a copyright term of one hundred years after the death of the author. This could theoretically even make 18th century works (1700-1799) still copyrighted, which is really ridiculous.

I would accept a copyright length of 25 years after the death of the author or 50 years after creation, whichever comes last. It makes sense for someone to be able to sell his work for his lifetime, but after he dies, there's no reason to keep it, especially if he has no descendants.

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Posted on 10-24-09 07:01:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Prince Kassad
I would accept a copyright length of 25 years after the death of the author

I think this is a good idea. Sometimes ones work does not get popular until after death. So I think it's fair for 25 years after death.

But you would also have to make sure that the thing in question is also available for public to get. Hell, I'm having problems getting my hands on GBA and GC games, and those where last gen. So I guess the product in question would also matter. :/

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I'd make copyright based on 'maintaining' the work. If the work continues to be used, then copyright can be extended.

However there'd be a hard cutoff of about 50 years from its origination even if the work was continually utilized.

There would also be a model for legitimizing the online trade of music and pictures and such; it would be simple.

Companies would all be forced to allow this trading to happen, but in return those who directly assist in the propagation of copyright stuff would have to keep track of who and what was being turned around, then they would pay a reasonable fee to a central government agency, which would then distribute these royalties to the companies they belong to.

The fees would become lower as the copyright product aged; if there was no significant improvement for years, then the original form would become pretty dang cheap. Even if there is one, the original would be allowed to persist at its cheap rate.

Note that I don't claim to know the market and this is just all made up fantasy idea by me, but, I think it'd greatly help both the music and video industries as well as users, if the government stepped between them and made a sort of compromise like this.

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Posted on 10-24-09 11:42:09 PM Link | Quote
I would say copyright of 5 or so years. Give people the power to use old works for new means, and require that creativity and innovation to keep moving on.

Otherwise you get stagnant crap with people doing the same thing over and over (or people using the relative staleness of an industry to bully other producers for violating copyrights for using 4-5 notes from a song or whatever).

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Posted on 11-29-09 10:15:48 PM Link | Quote
Post #2666 - 11-29-09 05:15:48 PM
Xk has the right idea. But really, copyright needs some people and/or laws to say "get a fucking grip." Youtube provides a fantastic example. Nobody is going to choose a shitty recording of the first half of a song in the background of a video with a bunch of other sound effects playing over actually buying an album. That's the kind of thing fair use should cover.

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