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Posted on 08-08-07 06:39:39 PM Link | Quote
I've been looking for 3D model editors for N64. I did find one named Ohmikron 3D Model Editor. The only bad thing, it doesn't edit N64 roms. I'll keep searching for one.

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Posted on 08-08-07 06:50:30 PM Link | Quote
Well for starters, models are hardcoded into the games, and since games all use their own special engine, you would have to make an editor for every game. There is no model editor software you are going to find that will edit any of the model data in an N64 ROM.
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Posted on 08-08-07 08:51:30 PM; last edit by Dudaw on 08-08-07 09:01 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sonicandfails
Well for starters, models are hardcoded into the games, and since games all use their own special engine, you would have to make an editor for every game. There is no model editor software you are going to find that will edit any of the model data in an N64 ROM.


Yes, but I have seen N64 model editors before like Super Smash Bros., F-Zero, and others. I think it is possible to do it. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us


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Posted on 08-08-07 08:55:19 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dudaw
Originally posted by Sonicandfails
Well for starters, models are hardcoded into the games, and since games all use their own special engine, you would have to make an editor for every game. There is no model editor software you are going to find that will edit any of the model data in an N64 ROM.


shit


There is none.

And stop typing in that "shot at datehere" thing, it is really stupid.

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Posted on 08-08-07 09:03:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Someguy
Originally posted by Dudaw
Originally posted by Sonicandfails
Well for starters, models are hardcoded into the games, and since games all use their own special engine, you would have to make an editor for every game. There is no model editor software you are going to find that will edit any of the model data in an N64 ROM.


shit


There is none.

And stop typing in that "shot at datehere" thing, it is really stupid.


I can't stop it, it happens when I put a Bleck icon, or some other icon! Oh, and there are 3D model editors, I've seen it before. Go to Youtube to see for yourself!

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Posted on 08-08-07 09:15:14 PM Link | Quote
Prepare for rant.

There are 3D model editors for programs and supported model types. For instance, a game may use ".ply" models because it supports it, so a .ply model editor could edit them. But, there are no set model filetype let alone a filesystem within N64 ROMs so they are hardcoded to the engine. This means something like 3DMax or some other 3D editing program is not going to support it. There are model editors for Perfect Dark/Goldeneye 64 because they were hand made to edit that specific game. Try to load up any other N64 ROM in it and be amazed. (HINT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WILL TRY IT ANYWAYS: It won't work)

Most model edits you have seen (Smash Bros, SM64, F-Zero(There is an editor for FZero though)) have been done with a hex editor, by hand, not with a model editor. It's always possible to edit models that way (Editing the raw innards), but by seeing your current knowledge of ROM hacking is so limited and biased to everything you see on Youtube and Google, I don't think you are going to be doing it any time soon.

To finish this off rather quickly;
There is no model editor you are going to find that can support any N64 ROM.
There is no model editor for SM64 yet.
If you want one, make it yourself.
If you want to make it yourself quit now, because it won't happen.
If you still think you can do it take up a programming language and get cracking at understanding the machine code that N64 uses.
After that, have fun corrupting the ROM by hand little by little until you find the data that contains the polygonal coordinates and such.
Then have fun figuring out how it works.

MISSION COMPLETE!

(PS: Noone said it was impossible, it's just not possible currently with any 3D editor, one has to be made specifically. If we were to go by your logic, we could edit Zelda Ocarina of Time with Lunar Magic.)
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Posted on 08-08-07 09:23:03 PM Link | Quote
Eh heh heh Keck! I was not saying that you can simply open a rom and edit it with an editor, then get a star and kiss on the forehead! I mean, what if you can rip the models from the rom into a certain format, then edit them. I do know about hex editing, I have tried it before, but the models come out very sloppy!

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Posted on 08-08-07 09:26:57 PM; last edit by Someguy on 08-08-07 09:27 PM Link | Quote
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idiot.

my rant is pretty much sonicandfails, but with added effect.

There is no model editor you are going to find that can support any N64 ROM.
There is no model editor for SM64 yet.
If you want one, make it yourself.
If you want to make it yourself quit now, because it won't happen.
If you still think you can do it take up a programming language and get cracking at understanding the machine code that N64 uses.
After that, have fun corrupting the ROM by hand little by little until you find the data that contains the polygonal coordinates and such.
Then have fun figuring out how it works.


too big.

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Posted on 08-08-07 09:28:02 PM Link | Quote
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least a somewhat standard model format that was used in multiple Nintendo games for the N64... after all, it would make more sense to standardize...

Still, that doesn't mean that the format is cracked or that there's an editor for it.

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Posted on 08-08-07 10:00:27 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Someguy
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idiot.

my rant is pretty much sonicandfails, but with added effect.

There is no model editor you are going to find that can support any N64 ROM.
There is no model editor for SM64 yet.
If you want one, make it yourself.
If you want to make it yourself quit now, because it won't happen.
If you still think you can do it take up a programming language and get cracking at understanding the machine code that N64 uses.
After that, have fun corrupting the ROM by hand little by little until you find the data that contains the polygonal coordinates and such.
Then have fun figuring out how it works.


too big.


Did I specifically say Super Mario 64!!? No I did not! Alright, you no longer need to speak to me! If you have nothing major to say then don't say anything! What if we were in a grocery store.... you're a complete stranger and you call me an idiot. Now that would be quite silly and crazy of you to do! Now would it not? We are in a public place, so that would quite be the same thing there.

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Posted on 08-08-07 10:10:38 PM Link | Quote
You are still a moron.

It doesn't say just SM64.

It says N64, ALL N64 roms.

You really fail

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Posted on 08-08-07 10:55:49 PM; last edit by Dudaw on 08-08-07 11:05 PM Link | Quote
Let this thread go down in history, there is no need for it any longer.Image Hosted by ImageShack.us


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Posted on 08-09-07 06:35:03 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dudaw
Originally posted by Someguy
Originally posted by Dudaw
Originally posted by Sonicandfails
Well for starters, models are hardcoded into the games, and since games all use their own special engine, you would have to make an editor for every game. There is no model editor software you are going to find that will edit any of the model data in an N64 ROM.


shit


There is none.

And stop typing in that "shot at datehere" thing, it is really stupid.


I can't stop it, it happens when I put a Bleck icon, or some other icon! Oh, and there are 3D model editors, I've seen it before. Go to Youtube to see for yourself!

links plz

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Posted on 08-09-07 11:06:18 AM Link | Quote
Hey, while you're at it, can you try to find me a save game editor for N64 games? How about a physics editor for N64 games? A text editor? A controls editor?

See, doesn't that sound silly?

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Posted on 08-09-07 05:47:36 PM; last edit by Dudaw on 08-09-07 05:48 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 08-09-07 06:58:46 PM Link | Quote
Also, I said Super Mario 64 because you have been posting in the SM64 thread, so I was almost sure that this was based on editing Mario models.
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Posted on 08-10-07 01:59:50 PM Link | Quote
ACKshully, adding new 3d geometry to a N64 rom is very possible.

Retardedly difficult, but possible.

This is an actual entirely new multiplayer level "Cyberen" made for Goldeneye, modelled in Blender. Check it out here. He's also got a public beta of a Goldeneye version of Block Fort.

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Posted on 08-10-07 03:03:41 PM Link | Quote
Yes, it's possible to add, but not edit. He was asking for an editor, so :/

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It is possible to edit models in N64 games.

It is possible to add models to N64 games.

It is NOT possible to make universal tools to do these things.

Every game has its own format for models, so editors have to be made for a specific game.

Now can this thread please die?

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Posted on 08-10-07 11:30:04 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
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It is possible to edit models in N64 games.

It is possible to add models to N64 games.

It is NOT possible to make universal tools to do these things.

Every game has its own format for models, so editors have to be made for a specific game.

Now can this thread please die?


Isn't this what I said?

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