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| Jul - NO! GO TO STAR! - Could a Toads Tool be made for Super Mario Sunshine? |
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11     Posts: 1/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| I was wondering... Once GameCube emulation gets good enough, maybe VL-Tone could start making a Toad's Tool Delfino to edit Super Mario Sunshine. Or is this not in any way possible? |
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Grawly User Level: 9  Posts: 5/10 EXP: 2197 For next: 965 Since: 02-12-09 Since last post: 11.0 years Last activity: 10.8 years
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I would make a list, but I should just say for now "Don't count on it any time soon." |
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11 Posts: 2/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| Yes, I know that, because the sound for super mario sunshine is not working on Dolphin yet. So... but I mean like in the next... say... 5 years or so. |
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Lyskar 12210     -The Chaos within trumps the Chaos without- Level: 192  Posts: 3172/12211 EXP: 99325965 For next: 547606 Since: 07-03-07 From: 52-2-88-7 Since last post: 7.4 years Last activity: 7.3 years
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11 Posts: 3/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| Thanks. A Galaxy one would be better though since a lot of galaxies are made out of nothing but platforms, so we could make new galaxies entirely from scratch. But yeah... Sunshine was awesome. We could hack the crap out of those levels where shadow mario takes away fludd and you have to do major platforming. I wouldn't mind a whole game like that. Toy Time galaxy also reminds me of that. IDK why... |
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VideoGuy Member Level: 22 Posts: 21/84 EXP: 53009 For next: 5341 Since: 05-10-09 Since last post: 12.0 years Last activity: 9.9 years
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| I can see someone making a Kaizo version of those secret levels in Sunshine. Let's hope not though.
I'm guessing after VL-Tone finishes Toad's Tool, he's never going to want to look at a ROM again. But I'm sure somebody will make an editor for Sunshine someday. Galaxy would be pretty difficult, considering the different gravities and custom objects, I don't think Galaxy will ever have a full level editor. |
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Lyskar 12210 -The Chaos within trumps the Chaos without- Level: 192 Posts: 3177/12211 EXP: 99325965 For next: 547606 Since: 07-03-07 From: 52-2-88-7 Since last post: 7.4 years Last activity: 7.3 years
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11 Posts: 4/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| But Super Mario Sunshine isn't a ROM. It's an ISO. They're different. |
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Lyskar 12210 -The Chaos within trumps the Chaos without- Level: 192 Posts: 3178/12211 EXP: 99325965 For next: 547606 Since: 07-03-07 From: 52-2-88-7 Since last post: 7.4 years Last activity: 7.3 years
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11 Posts: 5/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| This is true. However, there is the possibility that some pieces of data could be the same, like the collision data for platforms and such. |
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VideoGuy Member Level: 22 Posts: 26/84 EXP: 53009 For next: 5341 Since: 05-10-09 Since last post: 12.0 years Last activity: 9.9 years
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| I doubt it. In theory all 3D games should have the same kind of collision, but they don't. And considering the GC was very different from the N64, I don't think much of it would have been transferred over. But I don't know, I suppose it's possible. |
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11 Posts: 6/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| well by using action replay codes to figure out what does what, it wouldn't be that hard right? |
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Lyskar 12210 -The Chaos within trumps the Chaos without- Level: 192 Posts: 3182/12211 EXP: 99325965 For next: 547606 Since: 07-03-07 From: 52-2-88-7 Since last post: 7.4 years Last activity: 7.3 years
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gamekrazzy Member Level: 32  Posts: 180/199 EXP: 194625 For next: 11817 Since: 03-06-09 Since last post: 10.4 years Last activity: 8.6 years
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Originally posted by Metal_Man88 Well since were talking about tools here. Tile molester would be good use here in locating textures. Then we can find objects by finding pointers to the textures, that is if it does have a similar code as SM64. It would also tell us where not to look.  ____________________ Gamekrazzy* |
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BigBrain Member Level: 22 Posts: 44/85 EXP: 55322 For next: 3028 Since: 09-10-08 Since last post: 8.9 years Last activity: 6.8 years
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Originally posted by gamekrazzy Tile molester doesn't support Gamecube ISOs. Still, it might be useful to just search for the magic texture headers (i.e. for example the string "BM" for BMP files) to find out what format the game uses internally. Wouldn't really surprise me if the game uses some own format for that though. Apart from that, there's basically only manual trial and error or using an "ISO corrupter" ... Not sure how successful both would be here, given that the SMS ISO is about 800 MB big... EDIT: For hacking such a big ISO, it might be senseful to create an ISO map using a database (like http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=map&type=rom, but much more organized, e.g. 3D model files are just specified with a starting pointer and a link to the 3D Model struct etc) ____________________ GSoC 2009 - working for the Wine Project this year |
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11 Posts: 8/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| Oh, and I can't get Dolphin to work. At all. Period.
Also, I wish GC discs were readable by computers, like PS2 discs. |
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Raccoon Sam Member free speech disabled Level: 32 Posts: 111/187 EXP: 187848 For next: 18594 Since: 07-25-07 From: Somewhat Since last post: 4.5 years Last activity: 1.1 years
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| Well, to be honest, it would not be too hard (Yeah, I understand that sounds like something you shouldn't say, but bear with me)
Super Mario Sunshine, like any GC game follows the GCM filesystem and most of the file formats have been cracked. I'm pretty sure it's already possible to get a BMD out of the GCM, edit it, and re-inject it. GameCube emulation is far already and you can get far beyond 60fps vsync (albeit without sound emulation) but even WITH it, you can get fast and accurate results. All in all it'd really be just figuring out file formats. SM64 being an N64 ROM is a huge chunk of data while SMS has far more simple things; actual binary files. |
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XSuperGamer User Level: 11 Posts: 10/17 EXP: 4781 For next: 1204 Since: 08-06-09 Since last post: 12.4 years Last activity: 12.3 years
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| well it so, i wonder if all the buildings in mario sunshine (like the houses and stuff) are listed as objects, or part of the terrain? |
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