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1283 When I got my laptop, I stopped using my desktop computer. It was fine when I left it, and a couple of months later, I booted it back up to see if everything was ok, and everything was fine.
Now I have a problem though, it's been a year since I last powered it on, and now when I do, XP won't boot. It comes up with:
Couldn't open drive multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)
NTLDR: Couldn't open drive multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)
I opened the computer up, and noticed a *shitload* of dust in it, so I went in with an electronics-safe vacuum and cleaned it up a bit (though, the only way to really thoroughly clean it would be to completely disassemble it and clean every bit piece by piece).
No good, still doesn't boot. I got XP to almost kinda boot, but it was taking forever, before the computer just cold rebooted.
The HD-busy light comes on, but there's very little and sparse "clicky-thinking-noise" going on.
I have no idea what could possibly have happened to this thing, considering it was working fine for years. I guess it got lonely and committed suicide or something? I really need a new desktop computer anyway...
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| Me PM | best I could suggest is that a part wore out or it got bumped hard or something. I can't think of any reason for the computer to just up and die on it's own, though 
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| Posted on 08-01-09 08:17:16 PM (last edited by supermagicalpenguin at 08-01-09 05:32 PM) |
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It is possible that some models of computers can actually die from inactivity. They usually contain a PRAM battery that may or may not be rechargable depending on the computer that contains various settings such as the system time, etc. If this battery goes completely dead, on some older machines, the computer might fail to boot. These days the batteries are generally recharged while the computer is on, and have a life of about 10-12 years before they need to be replaced, though.
But, since your machine is starting up ... that's not the case ...
Hard disks can suffer failures from a shitton of different things. They essentially become more and more fragile, the older they get. A high-quality disk might last you ten years or more, but if you have one that lasts even that long, you're really fairly lucky. I've only seen one disk in my lifetime that's worked for that long. Most of the disks I've seen have lasted maybe five to eight years before failing, and cheap ones in budget PCs sometimes last only two or three.
You could always check Wikipedia or see if the drive is making odd sounds like the ones here.
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| |  | | Could very well be hard drive death. I've had a hard drive go bad on me, laptop one no less, 30 minutes after install at work. Shit does happen like that. Could be platters sitting for a while that could do it (much like the internals of a car not being as great after sitting for a while).
I'd suspect hard drive failure here as well.
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 That's a bit how my old Macintosh died too, except it was much more sudden ... it was working perfectly, then I was gone for 2 weeks, and came back to a dead hard disk (it wasn't recognized at all). Then it started working again a few years later (but died again after months)
But I still have my old Pentium 200MHz working (minus the battery) after 11 years, and I rarely ever boot it up anymore ...
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| Posted on 08-03-09 02:14:26 AM (last edited by 飛龍 at 08-02-09 11:17 PM) |
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| | | | Originally posted by Drag
...Damn, I was afraid of that. I don't suppose there's anything I can do about it, except for bringing it to a professional data-recovery center or something?
Most times if a drive's toast, a drive is toast.
I mean you can attempt to realign the platters, if that's the case...but the likelihood is that your drive needle has already screwed up royally as it is if you're hearing sounds of click death.
Drive recovery would be a tremendous amount of cash out of pocket, if you choose that route. Lowest being around 300 bucks.
And yea...another reason I hope solid state disks begin to get more mainstream. 256GB for 700-900 dollars is a bit much at this point in time though.
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| | | | I'm not saying you can't try it...but considering the sounds he's hearing plus evidence of it having issues in this system by these errors...there's a good chance it's kicked the bucket.
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| | | | Not necessarily. Not all of a system is stored on the hard drive.
I guess what you could also try is booting a disk/CD and do a drive diagnostic to see if it's still going or not...although what you would use would probably be around using Hi-Ren's boot CD and even then you may as well pull the drive, try it in another system, see if works.
It could very well just be data loss with no physical problems...but I'm better there is issues. Usually, even if you reformat and go again IF YOU CAN you will end up dropping data in a very short time afterwards.
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| Posted on 08-04-09 03:36:59 AM (last edited by Metal_Man88 at 08-04-09 12:42 AM) |
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Don't you see? If the files were damaged, your computer wouldn't be able to access NTLDR at all, as that is also a file.
I've gotten that error before, and it was when NTLDR pointed to the wrong place instead of the actual drive.
It occurred in a computer while I was using external HDDs--it had gotten the drive letters mixed up.
So if you could check NTLDR, you migth be able to save yourself buying a new hard drive entirely. :p
I guess what I should say is, all the HDD files are on the HDD. Hiryuu is wrong. Dead wrong. That's why you're getting confused.
So NTLDR popping up and saying that means two things. Well, three. Dangit. I always say two when I mean three.
1. It can't locate the partition, due to being pointed in the wrong direction (happens occasionally, especially if you play around with externals and boot order)
2. Partition is dead/corrupt (but you'd have to have multiple partitions for this, otherwise also NTLDR would die)
3. Windows is dead/corrupt (but your data should be okay)
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