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Posted on 08-05-07 04:42:01 AM; last edit by ShaddowKatgirl on 08-05-07 04:42 AM

I strictly don't give a fuck about this sort of thing, because I don't do anything illegal.

*shrugs*

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Posted on 08-05-07 05:03:53 AM

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So... Any law that doesn't affect you doesn't matter, no matter what the premise?

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Posted on 08-05-07 05:52:29 AM

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Originally posted by Shadic
So... Any law that doesn't affect you doesn't matter, no matter what the premise?

This law doesn't affect me or anyone around me.

Unless Stephen Harper has tricks up his sleeves...

Anyway, oh no, more wire tap, invading privacy, damn Bush, screw Cheney, global warming, war in Iraq, blah blah blah beating the same point over and over.

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Posted on 08-05-07 06:07:30 AM

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So... Doing multiple wrong things somehow makes each one of them less severe?

Maybe if you're looking at them in comparison to one another, but in the long run... No.

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Posted on 08-05-07 06:57:48 AM

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	Originally posted by ShaddowKatgirl I strictly don't give a fuck about this sort of thing, because I don't do anything illegal. shrugs Neither do many of the people arrested. Regardless, I'm Canadian but I want to move to either Sweden or Australia when I'm older. I'm scared of this continent. ____________________ ؟

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Posted on 08-05-07 07:35:04 AM

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Finally, somebody understands.

Sure, something that doesn't matter to you may not matter yet, but when they're able to take liberty by liberty away, we're going to end up in one scary nation soon, under the guise of "Protecting us from terrorists."

I'm so glad Real ID failed.

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Posted on 08-05-07 08:07:09 AM

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Somehow, I'm unsure if this will pass the House. Even so... these wiretaps won't go away until the Bush Administration and the remaining pro-Bush senators do. ____________________
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Posted on 08-05-07 08:26:17 AM

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Originally posted by ShaddowKatgirl
I strictly don't give a fuck about this sort of thing, because I don't do anything illegal.

I now direct you to this.

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Posted on 08-05-07 10:26:44 AM

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You have totally opened my eyes, and I completely agree with you, whole heartidly, now, and no longer feel safe.

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Posted on 08-05-07 11:41:10 AM

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dot dot dot

Yeah, sure, protecting people from terrorists. That's bullshit.

In the near future, they'll be worse than terrorists. I already had plans to move (even if I'm in Canada), but what the hell? Don't these people have any brains left or any sense of justice or whatever you want to call it.

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Posted on 08-05-07 12:25:38 PM

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Originally posted by Metal_Man88
Somehow, I'm unsure if this will pass the House. Even so... these wiretaps won't go away until the Bush Administration and the remaining pro-Bush senators do.

Democrats control the Senate. Some of them had to have agreed to this. It's not just about one party or administration; it's the entire government that's fucked up.

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Posted on 08-05-07 01:27:01 PM

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Originally posted by Metal_Man88
Somehow, I'm unsure if this will pass the House. Even so... these wiretaps won't go away until the Bush Administration and the remaining pro-Bush senators do.

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Posted on 08-05-07 04:57:47 PM

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Originally posted by chungy
Originally posted by ShaddowKatgirl
I strictly don't give a fuck about this sort of thing, because I don't do anything illegal.

I now direct you to this.

To download a document, it is necessary to log into SSRN. If not a registered member, click the link for free registration.

But anyway, here's a summary of what I'm guessing it said, and the single point that destroys the "nothing to hide" argument:

Yes, you do have something to hide. Maybe it's not something illegal. Maybe it's something embarrassing or perverted. Maybe it's just your password or something you don't want people to know about yet. But there is something.

I really can't believe how common that argument is.

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Posted on 08-05-07 05:05:54 PM

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Since that's just an alternate wording of the "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear" argument, I found an amusing counterpoint on Something Awful's forum (not registered, but I read over it once in a while)

Anyone who believes this phrase should post their credit card details in this thread.

Illegal or not, we all have things we don't want others to know, and we've got damn good reasons for some of them.

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Posted on 08-05-07 05:10:49 PM

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Yeah, the whole "Nothing to hide," argument really irritates me. I know a few people that have used it, but the don't really understand the implications of this..

Especially Real ID, which tracks a lot of information about you.

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Posted on 08-05-07 07:52:12 PM; last edit by ShaddowKatgirl on 08-05-07 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by HyperHacker
But anyway, here's a summary of what I'm guessing it said, and the single point that destroys the "nothing to hide" argument:

Yes, you do have something to hide. Maybe it's not something illegal. Maybe it's something embarrassing or perverted. Maybe it's just your password or something you don't want people to know about yet. But there is something.

I really can't believe how common that argument is.

I don't masturbate, do drugs, own anything illegal, and have, in my lifetime, downloaded a total of 3 copywritten pieces of media.

*yawns*

I doubt the government would use my AIM password against me, and the only thing I have that I keep secret (my social security number) they already know, don't they?

I think I fall into an odd little exception to the rule.

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Posted on 08-05-07 10:34:22 PM

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Originally posted by HyperHacker
To download a document, it is necessary to log into SSRN. If not a registered member, click the link for free registration.

Either you always get the worst luck at having problems no one else has, or you can try a different mirror :p

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Posted on 08-05-07 10:35:12 PM

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by the way... on the subjcet of the title of this thread....

I before E, except after C.

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