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Posted on 03-19-09 06:08:45 PM Link | Quote
Why is it that whenever Cirvante posts, he always seems to be in the middle of midterms or testing weeks or something. Do you ever NOT have tests?

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Posted on 03-19-09 06:14:40 PM (last edited by Nao at 03-19-09 03:15 PM) Link | Quote
Ar Tonelico II is a great game.

NIS America is a great localization and translation company.

Ar Tonelico II's NA release is a buggy craphole. There are game breaking bugs in it...like literally there's a boss that, if there's a particular move that gets used, will lock the game.

That isn't the only bug.

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Posted on 03-19-09 06:21:56 PM Link | Quote
How can you bug up a localization though? That doesn't seem very likely....

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Posted on 03-19-09 06:28:53 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Viarra
How can you bug up a localization though? That doesn't seem very likely....


Delete moves from a JP release and forgot to remove remnants in them that cause a crash is one. Not translating voices all the way and mixing Japanese and English audio in-battle is another. Not translating certain spots and leaving actual Kanji left over...leaving spots that cause [] blocks of text to appear...

The list goes on...it was shitty. Passable, but shitty for NISA.

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Posted on 03-19-09 06:31:21 PM Link | Quote
That's surprising... You'd think they would have been more thorough with the localization to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen...

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Posted on 03-19-09 06:32:29 PM Link | Quote
 
You'd think.

But then, Rhapsody DS had crashing bugs too, and NISA didn't seem to care all that much...

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Posted on 03-19-09 06:53:12 PM Link | Quote
I'm sure the PSP port of Disgaea had a bug, too, where if there were too many counters, the game would crash, too.

Never saw it for myself, though...

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Posted on 03-19-09 06:54:54 PM Link | Quote
It was final straw I heard for the execs over at NISA though.

In looking it up, apparently people got let go over it.

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Posted on 03-19-09 07:03:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Viarra
That's surprising... You'd think they would have been more thorough with the localization to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen...

Aside from bugging up Lufia 2, Natsume also has the "honor" of being the only company I know to actually misspell their own name. Seriously!


Originally posted by Bloodstar
I'm sure the PSP port of Disgaea had a bug, too, where if there were too many counters, the game would crash, too.

Never saw it for myself, though...

You had to have over 10 counters in a row. I suspect it's related to the whole "Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter!" thing.

Good luck getting that many counters, though. I strongly suspect it was in the original, too.


Disgaea PSP also had the Tainted Staff and Foresight bugs, which while not game breaking, had some pretty funny problems. Foresights had a huge amount of negative Mv and Jm so you wouldn't be able to move off the start square, and had a lot of (pre-subdued!) huge specialists, like L.700 teachers and L.13710 Staticians. Yeah.

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Posted on 03-19-09 07:28:02 PM Link | Quote
The level 700ish specialists weren't pre-subdued... I found myself going into loads of Foresights to build up Marksmen

And the Tainted Staff basically guaranteed poison. Whoo!

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Posted on 03-19-09 08:05:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Bloodstar
The level 700ish specialists weren't pre-subdued... I found myself going into loads of Foresights to build up Marksmen

And the Tainted Staff basically guaranteed poison. Whoo!

And yeah, they wern't. I mostly farmed it for teachers, but Marksmen were useful too

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Posted on 03-19-09 10:55:22 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 03-19-09 11:54:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nao
Not translating voices all the way and mixing Japanese and English audio in-battle is another.


The English voice actors in Sonic Adventure 2 got to shout some Japanese lines, and the Japanese Eggman says yes at one point.


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Posted on 03-19-09 11:56:10 PM Link | Quote
Yea but that's not the same as using both the audio from the English actors AND the Japanese actors in the same game for the same character.

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Some poor Megaman translations suffer from these weird issues too. :p

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Posted on 03-20-09 12:28:37 AM Link | Quote
Sonic yelling "terriya!" and Eggman yelling "yosh!" in the English setting still makes me giggle though.

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Posted on 03-20-09 12:44:36 AM Link | Quote



I remember that, and it was damn funny.

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Posted on 03-20-09 01:46:28 AM Link | Quote
Wonder what happened? I usually love NISA translations. Atlus is a little too dry for me, and Capcom is notorious for typos.

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Posted on 03-20-09 01:54:37 AM Link | Quote
They have a chance at redemption...Cross Edge in May on the PS3.

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Posted on 03-20-09 05:28:02 AM Link | Quote
 
Wait, NISA is doing the Cross Edge translation?

I thought it got handed off to someone else... ;;

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