Originally posted by Nao
Uhhuh...and the economy...and not just the US but the entire world?
Oh right that's all Bush's fault, right? Uhhuh...not anything in relation to a democratic-controlled Congress...all Bush's fault.
So then, feel free to explain this:
article.
The system is currently broken. Corporations run amok, and instead of tightening up the rules, the powers that be are continuing, criminally, with business as usual. Instead of cleaning house, the current administration is appointing and promoting the very people who trashed the house in the first place.
And to this, the voters say, Right On! There will be no more gridlock in Washington. The brakes are off, and the runaway train is picking up speed.
We may not see the next crash for a while, especially with the big fat kiss that Greenspan and company just gave Bush. Low interest rates will goose the economy forward for a while. But for how long? As any parent of toddlers knows, once kids start roughhousing, they keep horsin' around and horsin' around until someone gets hurt. Then the grown-ups step in, restore order, and maybe make some new rules -- like, no tackle football in the living room.
This time around, the grown-ups surveyed the wreckage, smiled, and said "Carry on!"
That was back in 2002.
Jimmy Carter wasn't thrilled either.
Ahmadinejad would agree against the capitalist system. Moot point anyways but...
Irrelevant.
I doubt highly that a secession happens but if it does I wouldn't be surprised and neither should anyone at this point considering the amount of disappointment that there is against the Obama administration in the way things are being handled.
what?? I mean, seriously, "the amount of disappointment" is about 27%. Bush's disapproval? 71%. I guess it's lucky that we didn't tear ourselves to shreds!
Oh wait, this is complete and utter bullshit. No wonder.
No one expects miracles after 50 days, sure, but from what's been put forward and the amount of money from taxpayers, yes - the stimulus, that are being thrown around in such ways that are considered 'irresponsible' in the mildest terms by not only Republicans but also Democrats. Add in a flailing free market that's being overwritten to socialist
sigh
or global economy, making health care globalized for everyone to the point that, after life expectancy, you can expect to be denied coverage and the amount of costs and other things behind it that are making both sides say 'stay away from it and make sure our jobs our back first before you go messing with health care' and add on a bunch of other things and you have unhappy people.
Yeah, the other countries (that is, almost every other first-world country, except US) have it completely wrong. No government-funded healthcare! Get it yourselves!
I mean it's not like the average healthcare costs per person per year is going over $8,000 or anything. Hope you don't have any serious conditions!
There's no 'whining' about it whatsoever - the way things are going by their thoughts is clearly unacceptable...
Okay, so who's saying it?
and this isn't some minority coming in and saying this.
27% isn't a minority?
Remember that Obama didn't win in a landslide - close to half of America did not agree with what Obama was and did not vote with him; don't forget that. It's not that any of us hate America or anything, it's far from it, and voicing concerns and trying to lead things in a positive direction is always something that conservatives are going to shoot for.
Define "landslide". Anyway, here are some facts:
2000:
* Bush: 47.9%, 271EV (5 point win)
* Gore: 48.4%, 266EV
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2004:
* Bush: 50.7%, 286 EV (35 point win)
* Kerry: 48.3%, 251 EV
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2008:
* Obama: 52.9%, 365 EV (192 point win)
* McCain: 45.6%, 173 EV
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That's well over 5 times Bush's biggest win, and even if you go by percentages:
* Bush's biggest win: 2.4%
* Obama's win: 7.3%
... it's still 3 times Bush's biggest win.
The only logical conclusion: Obama was wanted a hell of a lot more Americans than Bush was.
But where there are conservatives there are almost certainly revolutionaries that have been coming out of the woodwork as of late and they aren't happy at all about far leftists and it's coming to a point. I'm not that far right (I want to be more towards the center, actually) when it comes to that but I know such a motion is growing in the minds of a lot of people. A lot of talk about founding fathers, mostly centered around Benjamin Franklin, has been the talk of a lot of the right as of late because they find this 'leading to socialist society' frame of mind as a means of making said founding fathers roll over in their grave - it's not what the country was built upon and the current administration is attempt to change every facet of it.
I cannot parse though this as there are no refrences, sources, or any sort of actual documented material so I can read up on this "outrage".
I can only speculate that whatever political measuring system you're using for yourself is completely broken, as you honestly come off a lot further to the right than you seem to think.
All I've really heard through Obama is how bad things are going but then say something like 'put your money in the economy I said was terrible and not under your mattress' in constant contradictions, for instance,
It's a lot like a car. It ran out of gas because people broke the needle (regulations) and it ran on fumes for a while (the bubble), leading to a huge empty void where actual money was supposed to be. People need to put gas back in it (money) to get it moving again, with oversight (a mechanic) to make sure that it runs smoothly.
Economy falters -> people panic -> everybody hides money in mattress -> businesses can't sell anything as nobody is buying -> businesses lay off employees or close -> repeat.
The biggest thing that needs to be done right now is get people to start purchasing things again so that more people have employment. Employment pays -> spending things on goods and services -> businesses get money and can employ more people or raise wages.
but whatever. What we really need is direction right now, not just a person to reassure us and tell us everything will be all right when nothing's done...and I just don't see it under this administration and neither do a -lot- of people...
his disapproval rating since his inauguration has been on the rise, at least.
That looks pretty flat to me. Gallup has the same thing, though it looks more like steadying out.
I'm sure people will still give him time, considering 50 days in, but I doubt very seriously that this will continue if there are no results after half or a full year or so...especially with the economy the way it is and people without work - people don't like being helpless in that regard...and they don't like their pay check going to people that don't deserve it.
It took over 8 years for the economy to tank like this. Even if you're going to decide that it was really just 2 years, you're going to only allow one year to fix this? What?
The only explanation for this judgement I can fathom is that you have no idea of the magnitude of what needs to be fixed.
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