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Favorite Class/Classes
Scout
 
14.5% of users, 27 votes (38.0%)
Soldier
 
10.2% of users, 19 votes (26.8%)
Pyro
 
13.4% of users, 25 votes (35.2%)
Demoman
 
7.0% of users, 13 votes (18.3%)
Heavy
 
9.7% of users, 18 votes (25.4%)
Engineer
 
12.4% of users, 23 votes (32.4%)
Medic
 
12.4% of users, 23 votes (32.4%)
Sniper
 
10.2% of users, 19 votes (26.8%)
Spy
 
10.2% of users, 19 votes (26.8%)
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Kles

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Posted on 03-11-09 02:54:03 AM (last edited by Kles at 03-10-09 11:57 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Shantae
My style is more suicidal pyro than anything else. I try to stay alive, but when I see the chance, I'll run in and burn the crap off a group who's point capping. I guess I'm more of a Flamethrower guy after all.


Fuck you. I hate seeing suicidal pyros. Completely skillless pieces of trash. Overpowered in large pubs, underpowered in competitive. A fundamentally bad class. People can talk about "strategy" all they want with pyros, but at the end of the day, equip the backburner and just run into a large group, and kill them all.
Sponty
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Posted on 03-11-09 02:56:21 AM Link | Quote
Suicide Pyros are great. When they're successful.
Otherwise, it's just stupid. They're not the most offensive class ever.

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Xenesis

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Posted on 03-11-09 02:57:07 AM Link | Quote
Pfft, suicidal pyros = free ubercharge for the opposing team. Or Heavy Weapons Guy Meat.
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Posted on 03-11-09 02:57:45 AM Link | Quote
Forget suicide pyros, I fucking hate W+M1 pyros.

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Xenesis

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Posted on 03-11-09 03:02:18 AM Link | Quote
I just backstab them!





What?
Kles

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Posted on 03-11-09 03:33:38 AM Link | Quote
I have no problem with single W+M1 pyros. The real problem is that now here are 5 on a team because you can no longer counter them with heavies.
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Posted on 03-11-09 03:34:02 AM Link | Quote
I'm a backburner pyro, but not a suicide one. I hide in the shadows till someone gets in front of me and BURRRRRRRRN! I love cleaning out small areas too. I pretty much find ways to get behind people, or sneak up on them(Hello camping snipers!)

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Posted on 03-11-09 04:08:10 AM (last edited by Shantae at 03-11-09 01:14 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kles
Fuck you. I hate seeing suicidal pyros. Completely skillless pieces of trash. Overpowered in large pubs, underpowered in competitive. A fundamentally bad class. People can talk about "strategy" all they want with pyros, but at the end of the day, equip the backburner and just run into a large group, and kill them all.


Oh. I'm sorry. Did my effectiveness offend you?

Originally posted by Xenesis
Pfft, suicidal pyros = free ubercharge for the opposing team. Or Heavy Weapons Guy Meat.


Is it not best to force the medic to uber prematurely? That and heavies are easy, especially as a suicidal pyro. That's the point of being a suicidal pyro in the first place really. Burn, hack, hack, and run. I normally survive doing that.

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Sponty
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Posted on 03-11-09 04:14:48 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Pyrohno
I'm a backburner pyro, but not a suicide one. I hide in the shadows till someone gets in front of me and BURRRRRRRRN! I love cleaning out small areas too. I pretty much find ways to get behind people, or sneak up on them(Hello camping snipers!)

You know what, I can't use the Backburner. Too used to the compression blast. :/
On a related note, the fans on Black Mesa are amazing.

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Kles

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Posted on 03-11-09 04:42:49 AM Link | Quote
No, but your smugness at being able to kill everyone with little talent needed does.

Aside from the first few minutes, which I did as a sniper, I did this without a keyboard. Yes, without a keyboard:
DigitalBasic
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Posted on 03-11-09 04:48:47 AM Link | Quote


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Posted on 03-11-09 04:52:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kles
No, but your smugness at being able to kill everyone with little talent needed does.

Let's try to keep the insults down, okay? No need to be like that.

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Posted on 03-11-09 04:52:59 AM Link | Quote
By that you mean camping, correct? That's not suicidal at all... That's camping... Totally different play style...

You also also claim you used no keyboard. That sir, is impossible and you know it, but knowing you... It's probable to assume you're exaggerating.

And again, I'd like to point out that we don't give a shit about skill and the amount needed to flaunt e-peeners. We're speaking of effective use. That image there proves my point. Pyro = effective.

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Kles

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Posted on 03-11-09 05:09:30 AM (last edited by Kles at 03-11-09 02:10 AM) Link | Quote
what

I was on attack. How can you camp on attack on a payload map? No, I played just like pyros do: ran forward at the enemies, blowing fire everywhere. It takes no talent, and is highly effective in pubs.

And, yes, I literally used no keyboard. I bound forward to mouse2, and just did mouse1+mouse2 the entire match. Any other feature usually used on a keyboard, such as strafing, moving back, calling for medic, jumping, voice chat, switching a weapon, etc. were all unavailable to me.
Kles

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Posted on 03-11-09 05:12:14 AM Link | Quote
also I found the best image:

Eppy37
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Posted on 03-11-09 05:18:20 AM Link | Quote
Images

cpu: Sadly, a lot of people dont own the flare gun. Other than that, mostly true xD

Kles: I never knew someone could bend like that O___o;;

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Posted on 03-11-09 01:34:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kles
also I found the best image:




I've had that happen! XD

Just the midair weapon, not the crazy contorted position...

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Posted on 03-11-09 02:35:17 PM Link | Quote
Gotta love the "This job has worked 0 days without an accident" sign.

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Kles

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Posted on 03-11-09 08:02:03 PM Link | Quote
I just love the spy leading in from the corner with a funny face. That just makes the entire image.
Xenesis

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Posted on 03-12-09 01:00:53 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xenesis
Pfft, suicidal pyros = free ubercharge for the opposing team. Or Heavy Weapons Guy Meat.


Is it not best to force the medic to uber prematurely? That and heavies are easy, especially as a suicidal pyro. That's the point of being a suicidal pyro in the first place really. Burn, hack, hack, and run. I normally survive doing that.


What? Heavies counter Pyros any day of the week unless they get a crit stream and the Heavy isn't spun. Heck, I've beaten Pyros that run in suicidally with my bare hands and lived to tell the tale. The heavy has massive HP and will kill a Pyro before the Pyro will kill it - the only way to reliably win is to get some axtinguisher chops.

And it is best to force premature ubers, but a half-decent medic isn't going to allow you to get behind them most of the time...and suiciding, a medic on fire takes less than 50 damage from afterburn thanks to regen. Pyros are absolutely amazing against bad and unaware players, but can't take anyone half decent. I dunno, maybe it's just because there's so many more people on US servers there's a much larger variance in skills...or people only play crap like 2Fort but I rarely see a Pyro top the scoreboard ever and I struggle to make Top 3 as pyro unless I'm having a great day where I flame, shotty and axe like magic.

Kles: That picture is amazing.
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