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Posted on 01-22-10 01:39:57 PM (last edited by devin at 01-22-10 01:40 PM) Link | Quote
edit: please move this to the news forum i am an idiot

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8471187.stm


He says that the key to it is the black box connected to the aerial into which you put "programmed substance detection cards", each "designed to tune into" the frequency of a particular explosive or other substance named on the card.

He claims that in ideal conditions you can detect explosives from a range of up to 1km.

The training manual for the device says it can even, with the right card, detect elephants, humans and 100 dollar bills.

Newsnight obtained a set of cards for the ADE-651 and took them to Cambridge University's Computer Laboratory where Dr Markus Kuhn dissected a card supposed to detect TNT.

It contained nothing but the type of anti-theft tag used to prevent stealing in high street stores.

Dr Kuhn said it was "impossible" that it could detect anything at all and that the card had "absolutely nothing to do with the detection of TNT".

"There is nothing to program in these cards. There is no memory. There is no microcontroller. There is no way any form of information can be stored," he added.


Normally I find tales of technological snake oil amusing, but not when they, uh, cause casualties. How the hell did these things even make it to manufacturing? You'd think at least some level of quality assurance would be involved in 85 million dollar deals to prevent people from being blown up.
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Posted on 01-22-10 01:49:58 PM Link | Quote

The training manual for the device says it can even, with the right card, detect elephants, humans and 100 dollar bills.



"There is nothing to program in these cards. There is no memory. There is no microcontroller. There is no way any form of information can be stored," he added.


This had me laughing for a good 15 minutes. Can you imagine if that machine was accidently set to elephant, and thousands of people were triggering this?

"OH SHIT. DUMBO HAS COME BACK AND HE IS PISSED"
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Posted on 01-23-10 03:05:45 AM Link | Quote


Seriously, now?
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Posted on 05-01-13 10:49:23 AM (last edited by devin at 05-01-13 10:55:58 AM) Link | Quote
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22204076

James McCormick, the person responsible for manufacturing/marketing the ADE-651, was convicted of three counts of fraud last week.


"I said to him, 'if this really doesn't work I can't be any part of it.' McCormick replied 'It does exactly what it's designed to. It makes money'," he said.

The court heard that McCormick began his business by buying a batch of novelty "golf ball detectors" from the USA for less than $20 each. In fact they were simply radio aerials, attached by a hinge to a handle. He put the labels of his company, ATSC, on them and sold them as bomb detectors for $5,000 each.

He then made a more advanced-looking version which he was to sell for up to $55,000. The ADE-651 came with cards which he claimed were "programmed" to detect everything from explosives to ivory and even $100 bills. Police say the only genuine part of the kit - and the most expensive - was the carrying case.

Despite being banned from export in the UK since 2010, the ADE-651 continues to see worldwide use, particularly in Iraq, whose government has spent an estimated $85 million on the devices. Three Iraqi officials involved in the purchase of the devices have since been arrested and imprisoned on charges of corruption after it was discovered that they (from a total of up to 15 Iraqi officials) were on McCormick's payroll.

Nonetheless, they are still routinely used at security checkpoints throughout Iraq, and have been blamed for failures to detect explosives which have resulted in numerous injuries and deaths.


But the Inspector General of the Iraqi interior ministry, Aqil al-Turehi, who is conducting an investigation backed by the country's prime minister, believes that other, more senior, Iraqis were also involved in the deals which he angrily describes as a "conspiracy".

"I feel furious when I think that this gang of Jim McCormick and the Iraqis working with him killed my people by creating false security and selling such a useless device," he said.

Mr Al-Turehi believes the scam is responsible for hundreds of deaths. He provided evidence to the court that one vehicle laden with rockets and missiles passed through 23 checkpoints using the device, undetected. "The terrorists were able to gloat over the fact that it didn't work," he told the BBC.


In 2010, the investigation and exposure of the ADE-651 also led to a UK export ban on the GT200 and Alpha 6, two similarly fraudulent devices which have become security mainstays in Thailand, Mexico, and Kenya.

But hey, at least all those killed and maimed Iraqi civilians know where their golf balls are!
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Posted on 10-14-13 11:59:02 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by divine
James McCormick, the person responsible for manufacturing/marketing the ADE-651, was convicted of three counts of fraud last week.

Please tell me he gets more than three counts of fraud for willingly endangering the lives of potentially millions of innocent people.
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Posted on 10-15-13 12:02:04 AM Link | Quote
I wonder if they can hold him accountable for the lives lost in Iraq or if Iraq will have to; I have no idea how this works in the UK.

oh and uh they're still using those fake detectors 5 months later
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Posted on 10-15-13 01:16:15 AM Link | Quote
Whether the creator of this snake oil is tried in the UK or in Iraq doesn't really matter as I'm pretty sure either country will make sure that the collar on his shirt is tighter than it should be. Honestly, I want to know what will happen to the dipshit that gave this product the green light to be used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It really is sad.
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