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Posted on 10-26-09 03:50:32 PM

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Basically, I want the worlds in my SMB3 hack to follow different themes. Like, World 2 will be Water Land and not Desert Land, World 3 will be Ice Land and not Water Land, etc. I'm talking about the map screens, not the actual levels (I know how to change the pointers for those).

What's the best way to do this? I know I could use pointers to water levels in World 2, but the palette and music on the map screen would still be for Desert Land. How would I go about switching around the palettes and music? Or would it be easier to change the order in which the maps are picked somehow?

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Posted on 10-26-09 09:48:27 PM (last edited by Acmlm at 10-26-09 06:48 PM)

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Changing the palette and switching music (and animation speed to follow it) would be simple enough ... my SMB3 editor (SMB3 Discombobulator) can even do that

(SMB3 Workshop can edit the palettes but not the rest, it seems)

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Posted on 10-27-09 01:51:46 PM (last edited by Dark Witch Terra at 10-27-09 10:52 AM)

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That doesn't work

I matched my World 2 palette exactly to the original World 3 palette, and I got this:

World 3 still loads with the correct colours, and they're the same ones

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Posted on 10-27-09 01:59:18 PM

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*4matsy is tipped off by the GRAY pipes and palm trees

...Uh. That's not the world 3 palette you have there. It's world 9's.

In fact, now that I think back, I don't think world 3 has its own palette; rather, it uses world 1's. The palette in slot 3, if I remember right, is actually the one used by the warp zone.

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Posted on 10-27-09 02:23:27 PM

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No wonder. *slaps her forehead*

I just assumed that they were in order

Worlds 1 and 2 seemed to be.

Thank you, Acmlm and 4matsy

Do you know if any of the other palettes are out of order?

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Posted on 10-27-09 02:38:48 PM

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*actually checks*

Yeah, they're in the order 1&3-2-9-4-5-6-7-8, so no, that's the only one that's out of order.

Makes me wonder if they originally had a different theme planned for world 3. Probably not, but you never know with these things...

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Posted on 11-02-09 08:34:10 PM

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	Originally posted by 4matsy Makes me wonder if they originally had a different theme planned for world 3. Probably not, but you never know with these things... If they had planned out the Warp Zone from the beginning, the order probably would have gone 1/3-4-5-6-7-8-9. Cramming later worlds into earlier slots like they did is usually a good sign that something changed partway through development. ____________________

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Posted on 11-02-09 09:12:21 PM (last edited by Terra at 11-02-09 06:12 PM)

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My guess is that there were originally going to be 8 world maps, so they had 8 palettes. Then, they added the Warp Zone (or decided to) and they needed a palette for it, so they decided to move stuff around rather than adding a 9th palette

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Posted on 11-22-09 01:46:55 AM

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