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Posted on 10-22-09 08:45:25 PM Link | Quote
Just a question, since we can create new objects, new Map16 tiles, new tiles and such , it is possible to import/export them so we can share custom ones?
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Posted on 10-22-09 11:51:17 PM Link | Quote
hell yes, tile editor! you guys are doing a great job ^__^ can't wait for it to be complete =D
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Posted on 10-23-09 12:49:13 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Treeki
Something seems out of place!



Still working out bugs in the GraphicsEditor/TilesetEditor integration. I also need to add palette editing. It's coming along well though!



SICK!!!!

One of the major design issues I've found with NSMB is that with the packaged tiles, there is no way to make hills that mario can run through and also stand on, like the new ones in this screen shot. SMW is full of these kinds of tiles, and I feel that this is where SMW level editing is more creative. These tiles make it lots easier to make vertical levels. That barrier is now destroyed!
*squee*



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Posted on 10-23-09 01:55:08 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Garmichael
SICK!!!!

One of the major design issues I've found with NSMB is that with the packaged tiles, there is no way to make hills that mario can run through and also stand on, like the new ones in this screen shot. SMW is full of these kinds of tiles, and I feel that this is where SMW level editing is more creative. These tiles make it lots easier to make vertical levels. That barrier is now destroyed!
*squee*


It's very easily doable and works great in the engine - it's just not used in any of the game's tilesets. But you can create really flexible designs this way. (Mushroom platforms and the stairs in ghost houses are a pretty good example of solid-on-top slopes, which also work perfectly.)

I've been taking a break from coding/hacking for a bit. I've become addicted to Mabinogi which is further going to kill my productivity. The main remaining thing left to do before graphics stuff is completed is palette editing - once that's done, all tilesets will be fully modifiable. (Those SMB3 blocks were made using some blue colours which already existed in the palette.)

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Posted on 10-23-09 09:57:43 AM Link | Quote
yeah, i agree. I'll try to have a look at the palette editor this afternoon
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Posted on 10-25-09 07:10:15 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Treeki
Originally posted by Garmichael
SICK!!!!

One of the major design issues I've found with NSMB is that with the packaged tiles, there is no way to make hills that mario can run through and also stand on, like the new ones in this screen shot. SMW is full of these kinds of tiles, and I feel that this is where SMW level editing is more creative. These tiles make it lots easier to make vertical levels. That barrier is now destroyed!
*squee*


It's very easily doable and works great in the engine - it's just not used in any of the game's tilesets. But you can create really flexible designs this way. (Mushroom platforms and the stairs in ghost houses are a pretty good example of solid-on-top slopes, which also work perfectly.)


You're wrong, the possibility of blocks Mario can run through and stand on is used in the game. In the second part of level 2-5, the metal blocks are using it.

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Posted on 10-26-09 01:45:19 PM Link | Quote
I'm now making a background importer. You'll be able to import any image in the background of levels. it is hell to program because the bgs are compressed in 256 colors and tiles... But i already have finished the colors thing and i have some ideas on how to make the tiles compression.

This will be definitely cool. You'll be able to draw your own bgs and then import them, or even photographs!
(but the quality will be a bit low, specially for photographs...)
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Posted on 10-26-09 01:46:14 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by TheKinoko

You're wrong, the possibility of blocks Mario can run through and stand on is used in the game. In the second part of level 2-5, the metal blocks are using it.

yeah, but Treeki meant that also slopes can be made solid on top these blocks are just flat
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Posted on 10-26-09 03:00:30 PM Link | Quote
Ah, I see... slopes that Mario can run through. Seems pretty cool

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Posted on 10-28-09 04:12:15 PM Link | Quote
I have got an idea which might sound crazy - would it be possible that the editor fetches objects/sprites/etc descriptions from the wiki or some kind of online database? So we can update those descriptions without having to release a new version of the editor.

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Posted on 10-28-09 04:14:32 PM Link | Quote

That would be a bad idea. Wiki goes down; So goes the editor...

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Posted on 10-28-09 05:40:38 PM Link | Quote
We could have a local copy of the descriptions then.

So the editor tries to fetch the description from the wiki/database, and if it fails, it would take the local version, thus the user would have an (older) description.

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Posted on 10-28-09 06:34:02 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sucatraps
That would be a bad idea. Wiki goes down; So goes the editor...

Exactly. If this idea is implemented, I'd rather do it by hosting the data file on my server - not on an unreliable/slow wiki. Mine has gone down about 4 times in over a year (that I've noticed) and only for a few minutes at a time - I know nothing is going to happen to it.

In addition, having the data cached and only checking for updates once in a specific period (and/or when a button is clicked on the Tools tab) would make it work better - that way, it won't have to fetch the data every single time it starts.

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Posted on 10-28-09 06:42:02 PM Link | Quote
yeah. In the next version the sprite data will be stored locally, and if you select a sprite with known sprite data you'll get automatically the boxes to edit it, not the raw sprite data box. For example, if you select a Koopa, you'll get a box that says Color and you'll be able to select Red, Green or Blue. This has been already done.

The data is stored in an easy to edit text file. It would be a great idea to have the editor check for new versions of it and download them automatically... It would also be easy to do, just download the text file
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That some nice feature of sprite data! It will make the editor more friendly. But the sprites list will be updated since some unused sprites and data has been found?
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Posted on 10-28-09 07:27:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by gridatttack
That some nice feature of sprite data! It will make the editor more friendly. But the sprites list will be updated since some unused sprites and data has been found?


yeah, if we implement that. I think i will.
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Posted on 10-28-09 08:08:38 PM Link | Quote
That sounds pretty cool. Indeed, it would be more user friendly to have the appropriate boxes instead of the "sprite data: 00 00 00 00 00 00" thing. It would also make hacking easier, since you wouldn't have to remember what which byte does or consult the wiki for every sprite.

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Posted on 10-29-09 12:55:00 AM Link | Quote
it'd also be awesome if we could get some grapic previews for sprites, like we have for objects.
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Posted on 10-29-09 11:00:58 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by m64m
it'd also be awesome if we could get some grapic previews for sprites, like we have for objects.

yeah... but that'd be hard. because most sprites are 3d, and the 3d format of the ds is not very known... and then we would have to code each sprite how is displayed...

Objects are easier because they are all 2d and in the same places, and tilesets are all the same format. but theres no tables in the rom that specify how the sprites are displayed. they are hard-coded.
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Posted on 10-29-09 11:07:40 AM Link | Quote
Right.

The 2D ones (Goombas and Koopas) could be done easily enough. But for the 3D ones... not to mention the transformations applied to them may be hardcoded and not present in the 3D model files.

And there's a third category of sprites: non-graphical ones, like markers, events, etc...

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line 234 column 981 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 241 column 1645 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 241 column 1645 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 252 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 253 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 253 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 253 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 254 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 264 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 273 column 775 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 273 column 775 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 279 column 1300 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 279 column 1300 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 279 column 1755 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 279 column 1755 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 280 column 1829 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 280 column 1829 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 281 column 1903 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 281 column 1903 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 282 column 1977 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 282 column 1977 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 283 column 2051 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 283 column 2051 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 284 column 2125 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 284 column 2125 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 285 column 2199 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 285 column 2199 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 285 column 2249 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 285 column 2249 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 286 column 2435 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 286 column 2435 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 286 column 2486 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 286 column 2486 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 297 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 297 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 308 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 315 column 150 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 315 column 150 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 321 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 330 column 681 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 330 column 681 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 336 column 1319 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 336 column 1402 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 336 column 1485 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 336 column 1568 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 343 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 343 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 354 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 372 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 372 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 383 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 401 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 401 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 481 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 481 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 533 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 533 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 585 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 585 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 398 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 405 column 186 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 405 column 186 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 405 column 310 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 405 column 393 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 405 column 476 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 405 column 559 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 410 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 417 column 454 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 417 column 537 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 417 column 620 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 417 column 703 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 423 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 424 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 424 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 424 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 424 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 425 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 435 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 442 column 312 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" has invalid value "#FFFFF"
line 443 column 493 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 451 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 460 column 421 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 460 column 504 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 460 column 587 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 460 column 670 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 466 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 468 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 478 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 1138 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 1138 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 489 column 1212 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 489 column 1212 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 490 column 1286 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 490 column 1286 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 491 column 1360 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 491 column 1360 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 492 column 1434 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 492 column 1434 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 493 column 1508 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 493 column 1508 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 494 column 1582 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 494 column 1582 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 494 column 1632 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 494 column 1632 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 495 column 1818 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 495 column 1818 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 495 column 1869 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 495 column 1869 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 506 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 506 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 517 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 526 column 633 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 526 column 633 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 533 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 534 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 534 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 534 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 534 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 545 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 560 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 560 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 571 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 586 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 472 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 593 column 555 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 593 column 638 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 593 column 721 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 600 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 600 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 600 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 600 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 601 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 611 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 626 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 626 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 637 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 653 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 664 column 497 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 664 column 580 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 664 column 663 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 664 column 746 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 672 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 672 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 672 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 681 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 686 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 279 column 1819 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 280 column 1893 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 281 column 1967 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 282 column 2041 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 283 column 2115 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 284 column 2189 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 488 column 1202 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 489 column 1276 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 490 column 1350 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 491 column 1424 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 492 column 1498 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 493 column 1572 - Warning: trimming empty <marquee>
line 666 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 203 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 229 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 269 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 279 column 1684 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 280 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 281 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 282 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 283 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 284 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 285 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 286 column 2341 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 313 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 326 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 359 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 388 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 403 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 415 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 440 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 442 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 456 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 483 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 488 column 1067 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 489 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 490 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 491 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 492 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 493 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 494 column 1 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 495 column 1724 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 522 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 550 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 576 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 591 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 616 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 642 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 658 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 416 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md