Originally posted by Madman200

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I refuse that model of the pyro to be female. I would prefer an alternate model for the gender-swapped version. Still fully-covered, but slimmed down. (On that note, all alternate models should be slimmed down at least somewhat, except for the HWG.)

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Originally posted by Xkeeper

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How To Build A Team Fortress 2 Team That Actually Wins (CTF)

Defensive
- 2 or 3 Engineers, with well-placed Sentries; and in case they aren't close to the respawn room, teleporters to get them there fast, with Dispensers nearby
- 1 or 2 Pyros, as needed, for spychecking and scout-flaming, who should generally stay near the Sentry nests and prioritize spychecking as soon as reports of a spy/sapper come in
- 1 Demoman, for stickybomb traps around corners or other chokepoints
- 1 or 2 Heavies (Medic optional) for dealing with minor offensive pushes before the Sentry nest
- 2 Snipers to deal with incoming pests before the reach the base
(~8 people)

Offensive
- One Engineer, maximum (optional) - Building a small outpost near or in their base for attackers to start from. Defending this should NOT be a priority!
- 2 Soldiers/Heavies
- 1 Pyro for on-the-go spychecks + sapped building destruction
- 1 Demoman (to assist in unsapped building destruction)
- 1 ~ 2 Medics, with Ubercharge
- 1 ~ 2 Spies, which SHOULD sap Sentries before the rest of the offensive team obliterates them
- 1 ~ 2 Scouts to rush in and get out with the intel while the defending team is dead
(~8 people)


Obviously, the real balance you need will change based on what the other team is doing. For example, if they have a large number of Spies taking out your buildings, you want more Pyros doing spycheck duty; if they have no defense, get a bigger offense to make that push!


AVOID THIS AT ALL COST
- No Pyros/Heavies doing spychecking duty
- Too much empahsis put on building in their base
- Nobody on defense at all


Useful tip for Engineers
Don't build all of your team's sentries in the exact same spot (e.g. all facing the courtyard in 2fort)! This is ridiculously easy to destroy, since as soon as they figure out where one is, they know all of them, and a single good Uber will take them all out, leaving you completely open. Instead, provide each one with backup; e.g. put the first one in the lobby (near the grate area), one in the Courtyard, and one in the upper area near the spawn. That way, they'll have to push though one sentry, make their way to sentry 2, and then the last one -- taking too long that the Uber will wear off and they'll get mowed down. Leaving them to not be bunched up also means a Demo can't camp them; he'll have to take out one at a time, giving your team lots of advanced warning that he needs obliterated fast.


I cannot tell you how many times I've been on a team that decided building 2 sentries in their sewer was a great idea (regardless of what I said), and then getting completely steamrolled 0-3. It works the other way too; while it helps to keep your areas clean, unless a Sentry is providing a huge threat (i.e. one near spawn or otherwise cutting your paths off badly, e.g. right outside) you can usually rush in and find their base deserted. After that it's just a matter of making it back to your base.




On an unrelated note, the absolute worst part about playing on TPG's servers is that there's no team talk option. As much fun as alltalk is, it ruins the TEAMWORK part, since you can't very well tell your spy to start sapping without letting the other team know too.

This is why I wish TF2 did something Halo 2 did on the XBox, where you could swap to teamchat at any time.

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