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 | Wonderful. So I have 4 harddrives. The one that's giving me issues is the one where I basically keep all of my music and games amoung other stuff. I started getting a wierd error when I was editing a song off that drive in an audacity beta. When I selected the open dialog box, it said something like "drive D: is an unrecognized format. Format drive D: now?" to which I, confused as fuck as to why an audio editing program would be giving me this message, of course said no. My drive seemed to be working fine so I figured it was just something weird with the beta version or something. At this time my computer started to lag, but I kind of had a lot of things going on at once, so I figured I'd just restart the computer and give it a break.
Well, when I restarted the computer I get this message at bios "3rd slave IDE not detected". That's my music drive. I figure maybe a cable came loose or something, or possibly a sata cable went bad. After popping the hood and trying every possible configuration I could think of the get the drive to work, I concluded that the cables and the motherboard were fine and that the problem must be with the drive. I finally got bios to detect the hard drive, but now it says "3rd slave IDE harddisk error" and windows won't detect it at all. I can't even completely get into bios when the drive is connected. It will start to, but then just gives me a "wait" message that stays on indefinitely.
I know this is a drive that I should have made a backup of. Music I can replace, but I also had some projects on there that are irreplaceable. But I don't have a backup of it so I really don't want to format the drive if I don't have to. At this point I'm not even sure how I would go about formatting the drive since I can't get anything to detect it.
So is there anything else I can try out to salvage this thing or am I just fucked? If I do have to format it, does anyone know of a good file recovery software?
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If you can't detect it at all, your only real method if getting anything is to try taking it to a data recovery place.
You should probably call around and see what the prices would be, and look up any reviews for those places to see which one does the best job.
From that point on, it's mostly up to you how much value your stuff has, and if it'd be worth it to have a professional attempt recovery.
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It's toast.
The controller board on the drive is fried. You might be able to swap it out with another board, but that only works if it's exactly identical. If you do get it to work again, get everything off that drive as quickly as possible.
There are professional data recovery centers that can get your data back for a rather large sum, but it might not be worth it. ____________________ モノ江
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And whirs or clicks of death? Any loose platters? It could be that you a drive needle loose.
But yea, I'd say that your hard drive has kicked the bucket...and they're generally prone to doing that all at once. Aside from what you've told us, do you know the brand of the drive in question that you were using? You might be able to get something off of it with drive tools if it is still detectable by BIOS. It's a crapshoot but you might have a chance.
If you have the means to take it to a data recovery place, if it is that crucial, I'd do that but it does cost a bit sometimes depending on where you go (sometimes not if you find some mom and pop store that does it).
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| Posted on 10-09-08 10:48:14 PM (last edited by BlackNemesis13 at 10-09-08 07:50 PM) |
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| Nah it's not worth taking to a data recovery place. Nothing crucial was on there really, just stuff I would have really liked not to lose, and things I can't easily make again. I tried out a copy of SpinRite as a last resort, but it couldn't even detect the drive. Oh well, I needed a kick in the butt to get me to start making backups, and I did have a lot of bloat on there that needed cleaned out. At least this forces me to finally do it. Most of the stuff I had on there came from the net so I can get it back again. It's just going to take a lot of time and be a major pain in the ass.  The drive was fairly new and was a Western Digital. I thought they were supposed to be pretty good when it came to harddrive longevity.
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...And the hard drive brand? 
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| you posted just as I edited my post. Western Digital.
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| Posted on 10-09-08 11:00:13 PM (last edited by Fate Testarossa at 10-09-08 08:01 PM) |
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Originally posted by BlackNemesis13
you posted just as I edited my post. Western Digital.
Hahhh...as I feared...
You might want to give WD's Data LifeGuard a shot, just to make sure you can possibly resuscitate the drive if only long enough to grab the data and trash it. Again, crapshoot but I'd try it nonetheless. If nothing else, you might be able to diagnose if it really IS a dead drive or not with it...but with WD drives, your odds are slim for this.
If you do get another hard drive as a replacement, try Maxtor/Seagate the next go round. They're really the only brands I've ever tried and got performance out of (especially MAXTOR, which has now been acquired by Seagate). Any WD I've had crapped out within two years or less.
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| Oh my God, I don't believe it but it's actually working! It's going to take a while to get all of my data copied, but it's in the process of salvaging most of it. Whoo hoo! What was weird though is that when I started it up, it said that my bios wasn't properly configured to read drives above 137gb, which I know is bull because all of my drives are over 137gb and they've all been read just fine. Still i clicked repair anyway to "fix my bios" and whatever it did, now all of a sudden windows can detect my harddrive again. Well sort of, if I try to copy files outside of the program I get a cyclic redundency check, but it's reading it enough for me to get my files off so yay! 
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| Posted on 10-10-08 12:13:15 AM (last edited by Fate Testarossa at 10-09-08 09:14 PM) |
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Good good...get anything you can stashed to another drive then pitch this one. If you're able...try doing a check with with Disk Checkup while running Windows and see if it comes up with any flags of 'WARNINGS' or 'FAILS' or anything similar to this. You might just be able to diagnose it by that alone. I'm gonna assume, with all that cyclic redundancy, you're probably plate stress or it's loose...but that's beside the point and it's your own curiosity to check...replace the drive after this is all said and done and salvage what you can.
By the by, if your system is old, your -BIOS- may not be able to see drives over certain limits. It's INT 13h handling that isn't capable in some BIOSes on older computers and it limits itself to certain capacities.
However...if you're running Windows 2000 SP3+, Windows XP SP1+, Windows Vista or Linux...it doesn't matter...it emulates it anyways. You will still be able to use the full capacity of your drive provided you have any of these.
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| Posted on 10-10-08 12:16:10 AM (last edited by Xkeeper at 10-09-08 09:17 PM) |
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Good to hear it's working for now, at least... but yeah, copy that shit off and make a backup as soon as you have the chance.
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| Disk Checkup didn't come up with any warnings or fails, so I'm not quite sure what it's problem is other than it's shit now. It was whirring on me a little while ago but now that it's copying data it's quiet again. I'm aware of the 137gb limit in older computers. I've had to deal with it before with my old compaq, but this computer's fairly recent (2 years) so I didn't think of it as an issue.
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