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Posted on 10-19-08 11:20:05 PM (last edited by SecretGlitch at 10-19-08 08:21 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by wwwarea
Hey theres somthing wrong that you mite not know. When I patch the sky cage patch and then go to whomps fortress then in a area where those walls push you off. The game starts to crash. It mite do the same thing with the base patch. I havnt checked.


Messeian's base patches are really only meant to be played/edited in Bob-Omb Battlefeild. Why you're even playing the Sky Cage base is another question, since that version is outdated and full of bugs.

Edit: Messiean beat me to it.
And anyway I got a screenshot of an updated section:
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Posted on 10-19-08 11:26:11 PM (last edited by messiaen at 10-19-08 08:27 PM) Link | Quote
SecretGlitch: You may want to replace some of the uglier platforms with the "Flat Platform", which looks a bit better. I'm almost sure the dimensions are very similar, so most likely it won't be a problem. Experiment also with some of the "elevators" behavior, I'm sure they will work well in your level.

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Posted on 10-19-08 11:30:31 PM Link | Quote
What I really want to do is replace the textures on those platforms so they fit in well. I don't know if I should make them into wooden platforms or something else since it'll have a darker theme to it.
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Posted on 10-20-08 01:11:07 AM Link | Quote
So, after 15 days since this thread was created, here's what we have so far:

New level hub
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- Two areas with "houses" (initially, messiaen): 80% done.
- One main "city" area (initially, messiaen): 20% done

The main city area will feature few minigames and some NPCs. One of the minigames will be Celux's DDR (I'm waiting for the updated patch) and I'm doing another one in which you'll play as Yoshi!

Levels:
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- Secret Woods (Celux): 80% done - full level with 6 stars. I'm curious to see what Celux will do with the new features of the base patch.
- "Sky Cage" (SecretGlitch): 50% done - full level with 6 stars. SecretGlitch is reworking some stars but it's going well.
- "Flat" Lava Land (messiaen): 20% done - I'm just beggining to work on this one, it will be different from the 'sample level' I'll released a few months ago.
- "Cave level" (Blaster): Not sure how is the progress.

Custom ASM:
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- "Flexible" collision pointers: As featured in the base patch, allows some behaviors to be applied on any model
- Woking select Mario/Luigi: Working, but I need to change a bit Luigi physics by patching a few Gameshark codes into the ROM. Suggestions (and specific codes) can be sent to me by PM.
- Extended memory support: will be used mainly for custom ASM.

I haven't seen anything (screenshots or ppf patches) yet from GhostMaster3000 and Twilight. So, here's the deal: the deadline for sending a level is 02/11. As stated before, this won't be a very long hack, the main purpose is to experiment things and work our best on a few levels. Feel free to send some quality WIP material to me if you want some suggestions or have a specific need.

After 02/11, I will work in a more private way with the people who sent levels until the hack is finished.

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Posted on 10-20-08 01:50:19 AM Link | Quote
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Wow that's really nice to see this thing progress. I'm eager to see (and play!) the results!

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Posted on 10-20-08 01:53:25 AM Link | Quote

I'm calling it Super Demo World 64. I don't know about you guys, but it seems to fit perfectly in my book.

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Posted on 10-21-08 12:28:22 AM Link | Quote
Thanks for the support, I'm pretty sure there will be some nice levels!

I just hope that enough people get interested in helping with level design so I can focus more on doing some cool ASM stuff and helping customizing the levels.

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Posted on 10-21-08 04:12:01 AM (last edited by Celux at 12-09-14 08:34:08 AM) Link | Quote
Finally, I fixed that horrible glitch!

As requested by Messian for the team hack, here is a link to the minor (very minor) updated "Mario DDR" mod:
http://www.box.net/shared/dkalk7aqva

Sorry I haven't been modding for a while, but Ive been very busy lately and haven't had enough spare time. I hope to start editing my second level again soon.
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Posted on 10-21-08 08:32:13 PM Link | Quote
Thanks! I'll do some modifications to fit it into the hack:

- I will move the minigame out of Castle Grounds to a "Flatworld" level so we can have more flexiblity. It will still look and play exactly the same. If the camera gets on the way, I can experiment also with a fixed camera, in this case I think it would work nicely.

- I couldn't find an easy way to use the "small Mario" in this minigame. When Mario is at normal size, the camera gets too close and the minigame doesn't work very well. One interesting alternative I tried and seemed to worked is to make the player control a "Goomba" in this minigame. The animation doesn't look bad.

- A timer will be implemented: if you stay alive long enough, you get a star.

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Posted on 10-22-08 02:11:56 AM Link | Quote
Ok, the good news and the not-too-great news.

The good news is that I've practically finished up my level structurally. (One or two platforms have to be moved, but it's 99.9% done.) There's no lagging at all, the level only uses 120 objects. I've placed all 6 stars and the 100 (actually, 101) coins.

Screenshots:

Lowest point of the level looking to the highest.


Quite high up.


Highest point of the level looking to the lowest.


The not-so-great news is that for some odd reason the draw distance for coin sprites was reversed some time or another. That means I can only see coins far away when they usually dissapear and cannot see them close by when they are supposed to appear. I have no idea way, but this is not a good thing when I'm trying to test the 8 red coins.
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Posted on 10-22-08 11:40:29 AM Link | Quote
Looks interesting! You can use the "Tox Box" behavior or some moving behavior for the cages if you want some extra challenge at the last part of your level.

I recommended using more than 101 coins, otherwise it's way too frustrating to get that star. If you want to keep it that way, perhaps add some enemies that will give you more coins.

One general modification I'm thinking for the hack is to make so that 5 yellow coins gives you one health-part instead of each coin. This is just an idea, it will depend on how difficult the final levels become.

When you are done, send me the ppf patch that I will look at what's happening with the yellow/red coins. I think it could be related to the number of objects in the level, so just for testing purposes disable some of the platforms and see what's happen. If that's the reason, a solution would be to use more blue coins instead of yellow ones.

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Posted on 10-23-08 01:20:39 AM Link | Quote
Actually, there is no yellow coins in the level. Only red and blue. To get the 100 coins star you need to get all 8 red coins + all 17 blue coins.

I've tested the level with chunks of the objects disabled to see if the coins would act normal, but no luck.
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Posted on 10-23-08 06:13:29 PM Link | Quote
Send me a ppf patch when you are satisfied with the level so I can take a look at this.

I'm porting a few more Mario Kart 64 songs to Mario 64, this will add an interesting edge to the hack. Wave Race 64 uses the same format as MK 64, so that's also a possibility.

Now I need levels!

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Posted on 10-23-08 09:00:13 PM Link | Quote
Just be careful with the custom music, it won't work if the style of the music clashes with the style of the level.
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Posted on 10-23-08 09:32:57 PM Link | Quote
Yes, music should be a careful mix of less used tracks of Mario 64 with 'ripped tracks' and one or two original sequences.

You can find Mario Kart and Wave Race soundtracks USF-ripped at the 64th note site, this is what I'm using to find suitable tracks. I don't like a lot the soundtrack of Wave Race (there's some awful stuff there), but still some of the 'minor' sequences could be used.

I did some more testing with extended memory, with it is much easier to get complex models inside levels. One level must use that boss from Shifting Sand Land, it's so cool .

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Posted on 10-24-08 06:34:00 AM (last edited by Celux at 12-09-14 08:35:55 AM) Link | Quote
Finally, some free time . I can get back to work on my level now.

Edit: Ehhhh... This may sound a bit idiotic, but Messian, I need you to give me the link to the base patch again (The one with my SL64 mod) because I don't seem to be able to find where you posted it in this thread. Really, I've checked through about 5 times! ("insane laugh")
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Posted on 10-24-08 09:38:09 AM Link | Quote
You can find it in this folder. The file is base_patch_v01.zip. There's also a 01_secret_woods.ppf file which is your previous level converted to the base patch, if you want to add objects, change behaviors and expand that level.

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Posted on 10-24-08 10:20:49 PM (last edited by Celux at 12-09-14 08:43:03 AM) Link | Quote
Thanks a lot . I'll get to work then...

Edit: I was just sitting down thinking "Why work on my own mods at all? The team hack will be finished much faster if I put all my time into it..." so i've decided to give my full devotion to the team hack, and try to get all unrelated work completed faster.
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Posted on 10-25-08 12:21:20 AM Link | Quote
That's really great Celux, I'll need your help pretty soon to finish the 'city' area.

I did some cool NPC stuff today: talkable Yoshi, Peach, Goombas and Piranha plants with correct animations and collision spheres, in the main 'city area' you can talk to all these characters. It's a simple behavior edit (using basically the Pink Bob-omb with Message behavior).

Something I want to implement next is a new "universal solid behavior" in which one of the Params indicate scaling, so that you can obtain nice effects (such as the decorative mushrooms) without having to edit behaviors.

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Posted on 10-25-08 12:36:46 AM (last edited by Celux at 12-09-14 08:40:16 AM) Link | Quote
Wonderful, another problem .
I can't open the base-patched rom in TT64v0.5992, it says that it isn't extended. I imagine you know what I have to do to fix this problem?
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line 784 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 764 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
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line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 209 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 235 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 261 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 314 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 316 column 157 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 316 column 222 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 316 column 318 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 316 column 408 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 316 column 488 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 316 column 1443 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 340 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 342 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 367 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 395 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 340 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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