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Can YOU hear the difference between 128kbps and 320kbps MP3s?
Well, can you?
Yes, for sure
 
31.2%, 5 votes
Mmmmaybe?
 
50.0%, 8 votes
Nah not really
 
18.8%, 3 votes
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Posted on 01-28-22 01:39:03 PM Link | Quote


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If yes, how would you describe it?

I would like to think I have a pretty OK hearing and I enjoy listening to music a lot, but I've never really heard a difference. I can tell 96kbps is worse though.

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Posted on 01-28-22 02:01:05 PM Link | Quote
Gonna put a maybe down due to the equipment I have at home. Decent set of headphones with noise cancel that are worth every penny? Yea I can tell the difference, typically.

Over the air on speakers where you have outside ambience and things happening in the background? Probably not.

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Posted on 01-28-22 02:13:23 PM Link | Quote
I'd need two copies of the same song at the different bitrates, so I'll just put down maybe until I can get that done.

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Posted on 01-28-22 02:29:09 PM Link | Quote
there's also 320kbps vs big-ass FLAC files. i used to be able to tell the difference, and would download a music library in FLAC because of it, but stopped because maintaining a library is tedious and mostly listen to music through build-in speakers anyway

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Posted on 01-28-22 04:14:56 PM Link | Quote
320K, to me, is one of those 'good enough' spots. Having 20MB or so FLAC files for every song gets expensive for space real quick.

If I was concerned about exact quality, I'd have the physical copies of whatever. Be it digital disc or analog.

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Posted on 01-28-22 04:33:02 PM Link | Quote

don't really here much difference if at all even on decent headphones (jvc ha-rx700) but i'll take 320kbps or flac wheni can

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Posted on 01-28-22 04:33:30 PM Link | Quote




#69
My hearing was never good in the higher frequency range (above 5-7kHz), so I used to encode everything at 40-48kbps VBR (with 7500Hz lowpass) and still usually couldn't tell the difference, unless I slow it down to drop the high range where I can hear it

I went even lower for a while (16-24) before deciding on 40-48 as my "good enough" point ... but with a 20GB (later 40GB) hard drive at the time, the space savings were nice at least


As for how to describe it, a spectrogram shows it best: (comparing with files I already had)


ADPCM source   -   160kbps MP3   -   40-48kbps

It's sort of like cropping the least important (yet usually noisy) part then compressing to JPEG to fit under a specified filesize, balancing the crop size and lossy compression, and I guess I notice it the most on drums/noises becoming a blur of tones (the holes between lighter lines here) ... the lowpass (empty space) is more obvious of course
(FLAC is lossless so it's more like PNG by comparison)

And yes the low bitrate one (as bad as it looks here) is still "good enough" to me

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Posted on 01-28-22 05:16:48 PM Link | Quote
I will say that the older you get, the less likely you're going to be able to tell the difference for higher frequencies ranges.

Which this will tell you.

I can hear the 15K one but I can't hear anything above this at the office. Problem is I don't know if these shitty speakers attached to my office computer -have the frequency response range- to pick up on anything about 16KHz. A lot of cheap-ass speakers will cut off after a certain range or not be all that receptive.

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Posted on 01-28-22 06:04:07 PM Link | Quote




#69
I can hear the 8000Hz tone there (slightly above where my low bitrate cuts off), but 12000/15000/17400 might as well be complete silence ... my webcam microphone into my headphones picks them up fine (12000 comes out loud, higher ones less), so I know it's at least working

I already couldn't hear 12000Hz in my late teens to early 20's, but I'll see if it gets worse in my 40's or 50's

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Posted on 01-28-22 06:17:17 PM (last edited by commongardengrey at 01-28-22 06:19:30 PM) Link | Quote
Can never exactly put my finger on it, but the tallyhall official mp3s allways were more... full? than my old ytmp3'd versions. Something about the official ones just steals me away with the beatles-esqe foley and comforting repetition. I take thats what you all mean by the range of depth and Hz. (im not really into cpu science)
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Posted on 01-28-22 06:43:49 PM Link | Quote
I could hear the 17400Hz tone better than the 15000Hz one for whatever reason. Probably because my brain filters it out after sitting in front of a 15KHz TV for the last few years.

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Posted on 01-28-22 06:48:18 PM Link | Quote

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Personally I think you can't fairly compare audio compression unless you do some proper blind testing, the ABX Comparator for foobar2000 is really good for this, just make sure you start with a lossless format like WAV or FLAC and then convert it to the formats you plan on using (in this case, 128kbps and 320kbps MP3s) so that you don't get additional generational loss that may skew the results

Sighted listening (as in, where you know exactly what you're listening to) is a notoriously bad way of testing differences in audio, our brains are subconsciously affected by what we "expect" to hear, even if we try to avoid it, so ABX testing is the best way to make sure that we eliminate as much subconscious bias as possible

NwAvGuy's "Subjective vs Objective Debate" blog post, while somewhat aggressive in its writing (it's directed towards stubborn audiophiles lol), is very good at explaining both the concepts as well as how companies take advantage of sighted listening bias, as well the importance of independent testing in audio

I haven't tested 128kbps MP3s in probably years so I don't really remember, but I'm pretty bad at spotting audio compression differences in a blind test... I think I remember being able to tell 128k MP3s apart (because MP3 is a pretty bad format these days honestly) but I couldn't really hear any difference when it comes to 128k AACs, though it might also be partly because of my equipment, I'm happy with it though so that's what matters heh, no point chasing diminishing returns when I'm happy where I am

Personally I like to build up my music library using lossless files even though I can't hear a difference (I'd use FLAC, but I use iTunes which only supports Apple Lossless so I use that), the real benefit of it is that I can convert it into any other format I want without any generational loss (plus I can burn it to CD in full quality), usually I'll convert it to 144k Opus since Opus is a very efficient format that's transparent even at very low bitrates, I think 144kbps might be the accepted transparent bitrate but 128kbps is also probably pretty good

My library on my PC isn't huge and I don't listen to new music too often, so it isn't much of a pain for me to manage, and I'd much rather do this than use streaming for songs I already like hehe, I only use streaming for listening to new music before I grab it for my library

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Posted on 01-28-22 06:51:38 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by rokken
I could hear the 17400Hz tone better than the 15000Hz one for whatever reason. Probably because my brain filters it out after sitting in front of a 15KHz TV for the last few years.


Actually that -might- be whatever it is you're using to listen to that. Just because your headset has a frequency response range in a certain way doesn't necessarily mean it picks up on all of it equally.

Or you could just have a messed up head too.

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#69
It could also be because the 15000Hz video has much lower volume for some reason (from recording them here, 17400Hz is the loudest, 8000 and 12000 are -2.3dB, then 15000 is -16dB), but I'm sure getting used to a CRT TV's 15.7kHz contributes to it too

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That could be true too...I didn't look after I got away from the office.

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Posted on 01-28-22 08:04:18 PM (last edited by rokken at 01-28-22 08:04:30 PM) Link | Quote
I mean... yeah, it probably is my headphones to some degree. They've seen a lot of action, and I've slept with them on nearly every night so their cord is definitely worn. Also the volume thing, you'd think that would be standardized since they all seem to be from the same source.

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it depends on the situation, the equipment, and even the type of music. for example, if you listen to music with a lot of high frequency detail (some noise music, music with a lot of focus on drums, etc.) then it's definitely perceivable.

on the debate about quality, i think it's unfair to limit this discussion to just hearing, though. people keep high quality copies of music not just for listening but also for archival purposes. there's some music out there that is rare or even in danger of being lost; having lossless copies of this music allows it to be preserved a bit closer to the original master.

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When listening to chiptunes, I was always to discern the 128kb/s recordings. It just makes a mess out of it.
Also the higher notes on drums just hiss more than hit. I really don't like it.

And to think, this was considered good enough 20 years ago!

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Posted on 02-02-22 10:15:05 PM Link | Quote
128k sounds downright crusty to me, sometimes muddy if it's a busy song. 320k is usually fine but has those slight crustiness moments too, usually when it comes to percussion, especially cymbals. If I can only get something in 128k though then you bet I'll be listening to it that way, I prefer FLAC ordinarily but not so much that I'm going to completely avoid listening to something if I can only find it in MP3 128k or something -- I'd rather have it in subpar (imo) quality than not at all!

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Figured I'd mention the Opus format, it sounds pretty good from what I've heard.

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line 156 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "cccccc" and has been replaced
line 159 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 159 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 160 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "50.0%"
line 160 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "cccccc" and has been replaced
line 163 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 163 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 164 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "18.8%"
line 164 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "cccccc" and has been replaced
line 178 column 16 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 178 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 178 column 59 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 178 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 178 column 102 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 178 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 178 column 145 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 178 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 179 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 179 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 179 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 190 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 229 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 229 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 231 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 258 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 258 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 258 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 258 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 259 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 269 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 284 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 284 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 284 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 295 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 303 column 389 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 303 column 389 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 304 column 527 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 311 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 312 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 313 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 323 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 339 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 341 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 351 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 361 column 1368 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 370 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 372 column 45 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 380 column 1001 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 380 column 1101 - Warning: <center> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 380 column 1119 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 383 column 1486 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 383 column 1486 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 385 column 1732 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 385 column 1732 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 390 column 1921 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 2412 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 2412 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 2612 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 2612 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 401 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 401 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 402 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 402 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 403 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 413 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 433 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 435 column 45 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 443 column 971 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k1" already defined
line 443 column 986 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 443 column 1001 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 443 column 1101 - Warning: <center> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 443 column 1119 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 446 column 1200 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k2a" already defined
line 446 column 1216 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k2" already defined
line 446 column 1505 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 446 column 1505 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 448 column 1681 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 448 column 1681 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 455 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 455 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 455 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 481 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 481 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 481 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 481 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 482 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 492 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 507 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 507 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 507 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 507 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 508 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 518 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 542 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 542 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 543 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 543 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 543 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 543 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 544 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 554 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 565 column 765 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 565 column 765 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 574 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 576 column 45 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 584 column 971 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k1" already defined
line 584 column 986 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 584 column 1001 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 584 column 1101 - Warning: <center> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 584 column 1119 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 587 column 1200 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k2a" already defined
line 587 column 1216 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k2" already defined
line 587 column 1482 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 587 column 1482 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 593 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 593 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 595 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 605 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 612 column 300 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 612 column 300 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 619 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 620 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 620 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 620 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 620 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 621 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 631 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 645 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 646 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 646 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 646 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 646 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 647 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 657 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 676 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 677 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 677 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 677 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 677 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 678 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 688 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 915 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absbottom"
line 696 column 915 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 1022 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absbottom"
line 696 column 1022 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 1452 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absbottom"
line 696 column 1452 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 708 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 709 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 709 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 709 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 709 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 710 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 720 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 727 column 638 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 734 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 736 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 746 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 762 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 762 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 762 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 771 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 776 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 423 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 696 column 517 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 696 column 628 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 696 column 731 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 696 column 1203 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 696 column 1325 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 696 column 1644 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 696 column 1747 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 699 column 2261 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 699 column 2383 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 699 column 2480 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 699 column 2594 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 756 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 195 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 246 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 274 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 300 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 328 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 356 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 378 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 418 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 441 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 471 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 497 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 523 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 559 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 582 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 610 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 636 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 662 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 693 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 695 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 696 column 249 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolor"
line 696 column 340 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 450 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 544 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 664 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 758 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 1135 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 1239 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 1352 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 1557 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 696 column 1680 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 699 column 2193 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 699 column 2297 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 699 column 2410 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 699 column 2507 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 725 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 751 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 499 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md