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Posted on 01-22-22 01:19:40 PM Link | Quote
Despite how much I recommended Linux once upon a time I gotta admit I'm sort of between a rock and a hard place for now.

What I wanted out of Linux is an experience that is simple, similar to what I was used to with Windows XP and Windows 7, and that doesn't prevent me from delving deeper into the system in case I want to. And Linux Mint with the Cinnamon DE works very well towards that.

But, there's a few things that cause me pain using Linux:

- Graphics issues: the open-source AMD driver seems to have problems with switching power states, features like suspend are very prone to making the system crash, not to mention the occasional flickering windows that pop up once a day

- Audio issues: you have to hope and pray that PulseAudio works out of the box and that your speakers, headphones and mic are all set, because there's practically no tinkering/workarounds you can use aside from editing its configuration files

- Gaming issues: a few games that are noticeably more taxing on Linux, making it so that I have to play them on Windows if I want a smoother experience - even emulators too, Dolphin stutters in Linux but runs fine on Windows despite using OpenGL for both. Steam also seems to sometimes get stuck doing...something to the games, where I literally have to kill its process for it to get on with it. I think it may be related to some validation or shader pre-caching thing? whatever it is, it doesn't tell me and it's weird

The hard part now is that, with Linux I feel like I'm in control of my operating system, I can control what it's doing, what I want it to do, everything. But on Windows, well, you have control over it sure but it also really likes to decide things for you, and it tries to get in the way to make sure you don't do things in a way Microsoft did not intend you to do. It's just not the same as it used to be, maybe competition with the macOS is making them adopt these weird changes. Another thing is that I still believe that Windows is made to break after a few years, forcing you to reinstall it or, in the case of most people who don't know how to reinstall Windows, buy a new computer. Planned obsolescence at its finest. You don't get that on Linux.

Even this quote from a funny video, I feel like it now applies to Windows more-so than ever, not just to Macs:

Originally posted by Crash Different
Using a Mac is a little different than using a PC, it's not so much operating a computer as it is sort of tricking it, fooling it into doing what it is you want it to do, you kinda have to sneak up on a Mac. I don't feel like I'm operating the Mac as much as I'm just there sharing the Mac experience, and if I can do something useful while the Mac is willing, so much the better.


Installing 7-Zip on Windows 11 only to find out that once I right-click, I have to click "Show More Options" every goddamn time I want to simply extract or compress a file is frustrating. But aside from that, Windows 11 ran very well every time I booted it up, it's even updating properly. What I need to do (I think) is use ONLY Windows 11 for about a week (I have it on a different SSD for dual-booting) or a month and see how that goes. If I cannot replicate any of the video and audio issues, then that's gonna leave me fairly disappointed with Linux.

For my work laptop I have no reason to switch to Windows 11, at most I need to set up a virtual machine in there whenever I may need to use a program that just isn't gonna work on Linux. This idea will not work for my desktop because, well, if I'm already having performance issues while gaming as it is then using a virtual machine will help me none. If I did a GPU pass-through to the VM, I might be able to get it up to speed, but I only have one graphics card attached to this PC, and this is definitely not the time to be buying another one. Not to mention, this motherboard doesn't even have an extra slot for one anyway, so that wouldn't do me much good either.

I guess I could try having the GPU pass-through to my dedicated graphics card and leave Linux with the internal graphics while I have the VM open but I'm not sure how that would even work.
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Posted on 01-22-22 01:41:32 PM Link | Quote
every time i've tried gpu passthrough i've borked my linux install and just went back to windows 10

after fucking with linux on and off for around 4 years i've determined that, at least for me, it's more of a distraction, a novelty, when i use it... i never actually get any work done on it (if it's outside a web browser), rather i'm spending my time WORKING on it. i think if we compare operating systems to tools, then windows is like a hammer that you go out and buy, and it works, while linux is a hammer that you put together, and it breaks if you put it together wrong, or if you use it wrong. computers never do the wrong thing, rather, humans tell computers what to do incorrectly, so when you give more power to the user, there's a higher likelihood of accidents happening. such is why i've kinda veered toward less customization recently... if i'm using linux, i'd rather use GNOME than other environments, because i can't handle the responsibility, and focus, to use a tool that i can so easily break/customize rather than, idk, use? !

i think Windows 10 and Windows 11 are the same kind of take-and-bake hammer, and Windows 11 is a newer model that kinda sucks right now, but will get polished up more with time. some people might want to stick with older models (Windows 7) because yknow, they're ol trustworthy reliable tools they're used to...

i spent a long time following a philosophy of "There is no such thing as perfect. You can't perfect something, and when you try to, it gets worse. Every dystopia is an attempted utopia" which seems to apply to computing, you'll never get a perfect option, even beyond subjective opinions on which operating system and environment works best for them. i've probably already said this on here before, but i find that "the best products are the ones i don't notice when i'm using them", if it just naturally folds into my hands and it "just works". frankly, that is the case with Windows, 10 in specific

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Posted on 01-22-22 03:32:09 PM (last edited by rokken at 01-22-22 07:17:32 PM) Link | Quote
I'm looking at the BSDs right now as a lifelong Linux user (as in, I started using it at the age of nine) because each distribution is written as its own self-contained OS, and not as a stitched together tapestry of packages. Linux is going through a weird spot right now where it's not as simple and easy to use as it was 5 or 10 years ago, besides one or two distros that are specifically aimed at people who have never touched a POSIX system in their lives like Zorin, Elementary, and Pop. I guess I've been lucky in that all of the hardware I use is out of date already, so the drivers are generally all ironed out and autodetected during install -- like right now, my x86 machine has a GTX 970 in it, paired up with a 6600K, and the one prior to that had a GT 640 and an i5-2400 installed in it in 2019. If you have standards as low as mine, I suppose you probably lose the perspective of someone brand new to all this.
My most recent install (of pearOS just to try it out after getting used to and even enjoying Mac OS X Tiger) definitely has given me a lot more trouble than I've come to expect from Linux, so I get how it can seem like it's just a waste of time. Personally, I've never had this much trouble with Linux even back in 2009 with Mandriva, it was pretty good at just knowing what hardware I had and picking good defaults. The only BSD machine I have right now is OpenBSD on a PowerBook G3, but I'm looking at installing it on my Power Macs as well. My x86 machine is good enough as it is with my customized pearOS install (I got tired of the macOS 12 schtick so I just installed MATE instead), so I'll leave it like that and use it like a console. I've personally never noticed games running slower on Linux than on Windows, but see the earlier comments about hardware -- that and I'm comparing Linux to Windows Vista SP2.
I've honestly never used Windows 11, but I have used Windows 10 on someone else's PC. It's the deadly combination of stagnant and too different, but the ways it's too different are small things that just make it clunky. And then there's the issue of it being just this side of malware, but that's been the case with Windows since 1998, so... I'll just use the kernelex on Vista until Windows 10 stops being supported, and try some of the BSDs out. I like how NetBSD uses a microkernel...

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Posted on 01-22-22 06:58:28 PM Link | Quote

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Been using a fresh install of Windows 11 for the past few days, thanks to StartAllBack I haven't been hating it as much as I was expecting, StartAllBack actually makes it usable and adds back some of the UI features from 7 that I really like as well as fixing the UI stuff that Win11 changed for the worse (btw thanks Kaj for recommending it, I really appreciate that!)

So now it's basically just a more consistent-looking Windows 10 but with a new style and some Win7 elements, I've really grown to hate 10's horrible inconsistency as a UI nerd so it's nice that 11 actually makes things more consistent and that StartAllBack blends in so well with the OS's style

It sure is the most "nothing" Windows version yet though, which isn't necessarily a bad thing either I guess, and it makes sense since it literally wasn't going to be a new OS, they just took an upcoming Windows 10 update and slapped on the redesigned UI from the cancelled Windows 10X that they were working on

I'm planning on picking up an extra SATA SSD to put in my PC though that I can have a separate Arch Linux on, since I'm much more at home with Arch than with any other OS, I still need Windows for a variety of things but I'm a huge Arch fan at this point and honestly most of what I do on my PC can be done just fine on Linux at this point aside from specific games and some esoteric software, but even for gaming there's plenty that runs fine on Linux these days

I do have to admit I'm pretty biased though, I'm definitely a power user when it comes to this sort of stuff and I even run Arch on my website's server, so I have a lot of experience with it even though I've only been using it for around half a year, and I'm someone who generally enjoys working on computers as a hobby project in itself so I don't mind tinkering around a bunch with an OS

...Though I'm like that with Windows too, and honestly with Windows I feel like I can't get it to a usable state without tinkering with something, whereas with something like Manjaro KDE I'm basically good to go the moment it's installed after changing the theme and moving some panel elements around a little (but even then, that's just because I'm a UI nerd, most people would be fine with the defaults)

And hell, when I installed Windows 11 on here, I still had to deal with the "helpful" Windows Update auto-installing various drivers just to leave me with half-broken and outdated drivers as well as missing some things, meanwhile I still just find that any good Linux distro requires no additional driver setup on any of my systems

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Posted on 01-22-22 08:00:07 PM Link | Quote
glad it's working out for you!

i also recommend having T-Clock run at startup if you're using the small taskbar, as it adds the date to the clock in a second line, among other things

it's really interesting how StartAllBack (and StartIsBack too) can fix the inconsistencies that Microsoft just can't be fucked to fix, and it's just made by some person for a couple dollars

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Posted on 01-22-22 08:02:17 PM Link | Quote
I'm going to probably keep SAB in mind just in case we get more people that fall for upgrading to W11. That's been an aggressive push from MS as of late.



I have 2015 vibes. Godforbid we have another forced update campaign that MS gets in the middle of and they get sued for.

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Posted on 01-22-22 08:04:05 PM Link | Quote
it would be great if microsoft got sued again but it seems like the world tolerates technological assholery more these days

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Posted on 01-22-22 08:05:22 PM Link | Quote
That's what happens when you run most of the developed world on practically one operating system for desktops and laptops.

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Posted on 01-22-22 09:11:46 PM Link | Quote
Imagine a world where 90% of computer users run an OS where they're forced to accept an update that could at any time delete their data or settings, or just for some reason run their processor 15% less efficiently, or even prevent their PC from booting, because one suite of not even all that good programs keeps them chained to the ecosystem.
Oh wait

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Posted on 02-03-22 05:52:19 AM Link | Quote
Recently got a Surface Go 3 for work reasons and it came with Win11 installed.

What a pain really. It's working fine for work stuff but initial setup and as I slowly go I keep finding things that just are dumb and nonsensical.
Like at work we have a print server which has a specific name, but Win11 just kind of... Ignores that names exist? It shows only model data and nothing else. No extension of where in the network it is, nothing. Granted, it detects the name of the weird Apple print spooler that was shoved into a corner office to get Apple stuff to print.

So, Windows 11 recognises networked Apple device names, but not Windows ones (????????)

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Posted on 02-18-22 04:06:58 AM Link | Quote
So, how about Windows 11 Pro going to require Microsoft Account logins?
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Who didn't see this coming? Is it really that big of a surprise? Microsoft wants to count the atoms in your SSDs and see each bit of your RAM, of course they're going to want you logging into their servers. At least ReactOS has finally, after twenty-some years, been able to hire kernel developers. Hopefully that means it's completed before the end of the decade...

I mean, I probably won't use it for much, I'll be an OpenPOWER dévotée by then, unless POWER10 really does kill Raptor's free computing business I guess. Maybe it could always be ported over, I'd love to have a 64-bit NT 3.51 desktop... and not have to log into any servers in Redmond!

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i'm getting a new laptop soon and i'm trying to decide whether to run W11 or keep W10 on it. seems like there's a lot of pushback against W11. is that different? i figure, since it's a recent machine and new and all, the installation process gotta be fairly smooth and clean.

i would run linux, but so much of my workflow depends on Windows now. this is how one is trapped, i suppose. i do miss arch. i'd probably go back to my roots and run enlightenment in such a case.

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A lot of the pushback comes from the handling of Windows 11's taskbar - or rather its lack of customisability. A lot of the issues draw down to that.

The rest is generally what plagues new Windows revisions in general - the early releases being unstable messes.
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Posted on 02-18-22 07:36:35 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Flygon
A lot of the pushback comes from the handling of Windows 11's taskbar - or rather its lack of customisability. A lot of the issues draw down to that.

but people solve that by running software right? i already run tons of software to make the Windows 10 taskbar tolerable: TranslucentTB, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, Open-Shell. wait, will those not work in Windows 11 either, leaving me—if i were to run StartAllBack—with a `vanilla-Windows-10'-esque taskbar?

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It's still a nuisance for a lot of people, and they still feel skeevy over compatibility with other applications.

One of the people I know - who is terrified of building computers or even installing an OS - is overlooking a great Alder Lake prebuilt in favour of a Zen3 one, simply because the store is forcing Windows 11 installs for the Alder Lake system.

And part of this is because they don't trust Paint Tool SAI to not break on Windows 11.
It's weird little things like this that become a gigantic problem.

It's worth noting that Windows has a good habit of destroying graphics tablet compatibility on a whim.
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Good. They should be using AMD, Intel can't be trusted with the first four digits of your bank card.

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for some reason a few tech news articles came out today suggesting that MS might already be working on Windows 12

like... what. how and why... what????

who knows. maybe they could do the yearly increment thing like Apple's doing now with macOS 11, 12, and eventually 13 and so on.

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Didn't 11 just come out?

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Originally posted by Kaj
for some reason a few tech news articles came out today suggesting that MS might already be working on Windows 12...maybe they could do the yearly increment thing like Apple's doing now with macOS 11, 12, and eventually 13 and so on.


You pretty much gave the reason here.

MS is in direct competition with Apple and Apple is counting up their numbers now so they feel the need to follow suit. The reason Windows 11 is a thing is because of Big Sur being OS 11.

It's also a ploy for more money. As well as more stupid shit that MS is pulling...

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line 679 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
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line 681 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 699 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 700 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 702 column 74 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 702 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 837 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 839 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 857 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 858 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 861 column 291 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 860 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 864 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 866 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 884 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 885 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 887 column 74 - Warning: <link> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 887 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 896 column 17 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 896 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected <table>
line 899 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
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line 899 column 130 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 899 column 163 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
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line 899 column 198 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 901 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 901 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 902 column 37 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&id"
line 901 column 183 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
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line 903 column 35 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 903 column 43 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 903 column 53 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noscript>
line 903 column 64 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 903 column 74 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 903 column 82 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 903 column 90 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 905 column 9 - Warning: missing </font> before <table>
line 917 column 25 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 926 column 57 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
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line 148 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 148 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 342 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 342 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 342 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 401 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 842 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 842 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 842 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 868 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 868 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 868 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 869 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 869 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 869 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 869 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 870 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 880 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 902 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 902 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 902 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 911 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 916 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 896 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 225 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 260 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 288 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 326 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 359 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 389 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 418 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 444 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 471 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 502 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 528 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 557 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 585 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 613 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 640 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 673 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 700 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 858 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 885 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 355 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md