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Posted on 07-27-21 10:38:57 PM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/648

95 watts for the CPU, 120 W for the 1650 Super (because let's be honest, power ratings on GPUs are generally wrong), 20 watts for the chipset and drives. let's math the math easy and round 'er up to 250 because Dell probably did some dicey factory overclock on something anyways for Maximum Gamer Cred

that gets you about an hour and change of High Impact Epic e-Sports Gaming XXTreme (sponsored by G-Fuel) per day for a year

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Posted on 07-27-21 10:41:37 PM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/649

or this is a ruse by Big AI to stop people from crowdsourcing an omniscient skynet because they want theirs to be the only sentient globe-dominating machine intelligence

(this and more in my upcoming retrofuturepunk serial: do androids act like electric sheeple)

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Posted on 07-27-21 11:47:23 PM Link | Quote
It only applies to idle power draw.

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Posted on 07-27-21 11:48:11 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
It only applies to idle power draw.


Any idea what that specifically would be before it's considered banned?

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Posted on 07-28-21 01:16:11 AM Link | Quote
The yearly idle power limit is based on a rough estimate of maximum power draw. I'm not sure how close the estimate is to the actual maximum.

250W or less: 50kWh/year (average 5.7W)
251W-425W: 60kWh/year (average 6.8W)
426W-690W: 75kWh/year (average 8.6W)
691W or more: no idle power draw limit

These numbers are extremely low because "idle" means any time you're not actively using the PC, including when it's off.

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Posted on 07-28-21 01:18:46 AM Link | Quote
There's gotta be some logic in there for how much time it is considered "on" at least, because if you say it includes time the PC is off, then you just leave it off all the time.



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Posted on 07-28-21 01:31:02 AM Link | Quote
This whole thing needs clarification. Badly.

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Posted on 07-28-21 01:33:06 AM Link | Quote
In fact, there is. It assumes the PC is in "short idle" 35% of the time, "long idle" 15% of the time, "sleep" 5% of the time, and off 45% of the time.

Assuming power draw when the PC is asleep or off is negligible, that doubles the average.

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Posted on 07-28-21 01:55:54 AM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/654

PS C:\Users\kazin> Get-Uptime | Select-Object -Property Days,Hours,Minutes


Days Hours Minutes

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  35     6      12


this poster's electricity consumption habits known to the state of california to cause brownouts

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Posted on 07-28-21 05:29:40 PM (last edited by rokken at 07-28-21 05:30:23 PM) Link | Quote
Well, this makes me much happier to own a 10 year old slideshow maker with a 9 year old GPU that was even bottom-shelf when it was introduced. Should probably get into the habit of turning it off though. It'd be cool if we replaced all our coal with nuclear so we wouldn't have to worry about pollution.

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Posted on 07-28-21 06:04:49 PM Link | Quote
Sounds like they need to be under 5W in sleep mode. And these aren't.

Or at least that's the explanation I'm receiving here.

Not sure how that allows servers and workstations to pass through unharmed though since I doubt very seriously they're more efficient but it's the information given.

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Posted on 07-28-21 11:33:44 PM Link | Quote
Servers and workstations fit into a different category where those limits don't apply.

Here's how a PC gets into the server category.

Here's how a PC gets into the workstation category.

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Posted on 07-28-21 11:49:36 PM Link | Quote
Okay, so with that out of the way, how does a build from scratch differ in comparison to a pre-built? For all we know, the pre-built might be much better off than one that someone might build from the ground up. How would you go about regulating something like that? Or do they even bother?

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They don't bother. It only applies to whole computers.

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line 515 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 516 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 526 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 544 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 544 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 544 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 544 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 544 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 544 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 544 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 544 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 544 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 544 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 544 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 544 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 544 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 598 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 615 column 860 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 615 column 937 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 615 column 1047 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 615 column 1122 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 615 column 1408 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 615 column 1408 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 615 column 1464 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 615 column 1464 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 626 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 626 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 626 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 640 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 620 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 209 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 241 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 267 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 295 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 328 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 356 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 382 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 410 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 447 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 475 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 501 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 531 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 561 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 587 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 613 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 333 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md