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Posted on 05-28-19 10:10:52 PM Link | Quote
Sooooooooooo haven't posted about this uh, here, but um

I am pretty sure I am not neurotypical. Earlier this year I saw a specialist for an ADHD assessment, and I kind of tick the boxes for inattentive subtype ADHD but he wasn't so sure that's definitely it. He thinks it's more likely I am autistic, especially with the off-the-charts anxiety. The executive dysfunction has been kicking my arse for a long time and that's what I was hoping to get to the bottom of. I'm still in the process of getting to the bottom of it but autism seems to fit as well from what I've read.

But having done a lot of reading on things it sounds like ADHD and autism and dyslexia and things like that are overlapping in various ways, so I guess while I don't know exactly what's going on I've settled on "not neurotypical".

Just wondering how many other people here are neurodiverse? How did you find out? Did you get a diagnosis as a kid?

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Posted on 05-29-19 05:30:46 PM (last edited by Chalcedony at 05-29-19 05:31:39 PM) Link | Quote

β … I mean… um… *glances over at Illum*

α *blinky* *innocent look* What?

β I kind of doubt that is what you were asking about, but I'm pretty confident it involves some kind of unusual neuronal configuration. (It also feels like it should be a Homestar Runner reference sometimes. “Do you think you're a bird?” “Um… nooo…” “Do you think you're thousands of birds?” “Yes. Very yes. cvcvcvc”)

As far as our biohistory, there's been no diagnoses for various reasons, but assuming the model of there being a Spectrum of the autism/attention-deficit/etc. in the way you mentioned is accurate enough… the experiential evidence is really ambiguous. Jisei (two generations ago in the same body) evinced the more stereotypical aspects of it, judging largely by the way he prioritized his thoughts and interpreted social information (or didn't). People who were close to him frequently mentioned the idea, and people who reported having those traits tended to be ones he found it much more natural to get along with, which is congruent with the “different modes of social skills” story about autist/allist misunderstandings that's been making the rounds. His successor Akari was flung in the opposite direction; she and (some of) us have found interactions with people who evince the autism-spectrum “type” of interpretation of interaction to be much more awkward, and we've had to rely on consciously trying to remember what it was like for Jisei. There were a few neurological-seeming weirds (like motor jitters) that showed up after Akari's initialization that made her (and then us) suspect that the transition was so sharp that there was some underlying damage in the process, which maybe credits a “radical change to brain parameters” interpretation? But there's also disasters that happened later on which have compelling alternate interpretations involving “autistic/neuroatypical burnout” from trying too hard to pass as typical for too long.

And now we have the part where I have the distinct feeling I lean more in that atypical direction than Illum does—which is in itself semi-consciously set up and reinforced, because one of the main points of there being two of us was not knowing which direction to go. And there's the negative sides of typical conformity instincts which people are “supposed to” learn how to deal with decades before this, which we've been having to figure out from scratch. And there's the gender stuff which has a whole mess of possible interactions. And there's a lot of executive dysfunction which looks similar to adult attention-deficit stuff, but there's also plausible trauma-history/depression interpretations. I don't even know. *flail*

I hope that was at least a little bit relevant? 9..6



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Posted on 05-29-19 06:26:16 PM Link | Quote
I'm neurodiverse, but exactly in what way isn't clear.


I was suspected of having ADHD and possibly some other kind of learning disability when I was in elementary school. I spent some time away from the normal curriculum with special educators learning phonics and other basic literacy skills. Exactly why this happened was never explained to me, but I guess I was suspected of being dyslexic. I was never officially diagnosed with anything, though.

By the time I was in high school, however, it seemed like those suspicions were gone. I did fairly well in school, and I didn't have much trouble focusing or reading, so it didn't seem like I had ADHD or dyslexia. I was definitely "different" than most of the other kids, though, and I had trouble relating or socializing with them. Shortly after high school, I got diagnosed with depression and general anxiety, but there definitely seemed to be more going on than that.


It was eventually suggested to me from multiple people that I may be autistic. I resisted the idea eventually, but over time, I learned more about it, and it made more and more sense to me. I have a lot of the usual characteristics associated with being autistic, and most of my immediate family and a significant part of my extended family is also autistic, so I could definitely have it. It helps me better understand myself, but I've never sought out a professional diagnosis since it doesn't seem like it would be beneficial for me.

So, even though I think I'm probably autistic, I tend to hesitate to actually call myself autistic since I've never been diagnosed. With that said, however, I understand the immense barriers to and risks of getting professionally diagnosed, so I don't judge anyone who hasn't been. It's just more of a personal thing for me, I guess.

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Posted on 05-29-19 07:22:32 PM Link | Quote
I'm definitely neurodiverse (specifically ASD), but it went undiagnosed until my late teenage years. My immediate reaction was to not bring it up at all, but I've gotten better over time though I still only really talk about it in relevant contexts. I can see how it's affected me throughout my life, but it hasn't resulted in anything beyond therapy.

I'm also probably neurodiverse in other ways, but I'm not sure whether or not those would be considered enough for an official diagnosis (not that I really need it anyway).

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Posted on 05-30-19 03:56:45 AM (last edited by Tarale at 05-30-19 03:57:12 AM) Link | Quote
It's funny to hear some of the other "probably" things from other people, because that's how I feel as well. I read about it, and for a while I'm like OH YEAH OH MAN OH WOW, but then I just kind of... wonder if I'm... that way ENOUGH, I guess.

So a part of why I'll seek a diagnosis is down to that doubt. The other reason is that my GP is gatekeeping me from seeing a psychiatrist about things. My anxiety and depression stuff has been fairly treatment-resistant and I want to speak to a psychiatrist about that. My GP doesn't want me to without a proper autism and/or ADHD diagnosis and approval through the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

I just kind of don't want my anxiety to be at an 11 all the time haha

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Posted on 05-30-19 04:51:36 AM Link | Quote
I almost certainly have ADHD. (Just got referred to a specialist for that from my therapist so we'll see what happens there...) It's not great, to say the least.

I never realized until very recently that ADHD was, like, a thing that adults have. There's sort of this stereotype that ADHD is a label you slap on rowdy elementary school boys, and I'm none of those things. But I stumbled upon someone talking about it (namely this piece by GravisLizard) and... it explains a lot??? I'm nowhere as severe as he is, but something about that struck close to home.

Like, it would definitely explain why I've almost never been able to stay on one of my pet projects for more than a few weeks, or why I have the hardest time studying, or why I tend to just sort of get stuck browsing my phone instead of getting up to go to an appointment despite screaming at myself internally to just get up already, among many many other things. (This is where I'd shamelessly self-promote an article on my site about my experiences with ADHD, but unfortunately I haven't finished that because I can't focus long enough to finish the last 10%. :specialed: )

As an aside, I'm pretty miffled about the absurdly poor education surrounding not only this but also autism and anxiety and depression and a lot of other stuff. It feels like all anybody knows are the easy-to-grasp but wildly inaccurate stereotypes. These things are a lot more nuanced and a lot less drastic and dramatic than a lot of people realize. There's also a weird sort of shame around these sorts of things, like it's somehow not okay to be neurodiverse? (I'll admit I hesitated posting this...)

For me specifically I thought I was just "a procrastinator", and all I had to do was just not procrastinate. (i totally blame this old waitbutwhy piece...) This mindset was like pushing a boulder uphill; it hurt a lot more than it helped because I was approaching the problem wrong. It took me a little while to come to grips with the fact that I can't always do things the way neurotypical people do, and that I need to approach some tasks differently. A lot of times I wish I didn't have to deal with this, but I do, so I might as well accept it.
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Posted on 05-30-19 07:32:43 AM (last edited by Rambly at 05-30-19 07:34:52 AM) Link | Quote
i was diagnosed with asperger's when i was 12 and ashamed of it for years so i refused to tell anyone about it. i was raised to look at it in kind of a shitty way, plus i grew up around awful internet people who said all sorts of lovely slurs, particularly the something awful crowd where the disdain for autistic people was palpable. it took me until 2015 or 2016 to not completely compartmentalize the fact that i'm probably at least a little neuroatypical

i certainly have the signs, anyway: i've struggled with executive function on and off my whole life, i struggle in social situations, i don't really read social cues terribly well, i fidget a lottttt...

i also strongly suspect i might either have BPD or C-PTSD — i hear people say BPD is neurodivergent too, so there you go. i'm super super extremely sensitive and anything that reminds me of specific emotional traumas i have fucks me up and makes me want to withdraw from people or worse. i really need to talk to a good therapist about it at some point, but i've been skittish about it because i'm just scared. i'm scared i won't be able to find the right therapist or that it might cause me more harm than it would fix anything...

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Posted on 05-30-19 07:56:48 AM Link | Quote
Was diagnosed with Asperger's when I was in kindergarten, and only recently (currently 21 y/o) was I diagnosed with depression, anxiety, and ADHD.

When I was younger, I didn't even know I had Asperger's. When I found out when I was older, I really didn't know what it was, and I didn't bother looking it up for a while. It helped me out in a certain sense- I could do math(s) like a madman, and anything else that interests me was easy to learn- but it had its drawbacks, namely the social anxiety.

As for the others, well, the depression wasn't really a thing until around 2015, when a whole bunch of shit happened and kind of knocked me down, and it's something I never really got up from. I tend to struggle with it a lot nowadays, to the point that even doing basic shit becomes a genuine challenge. The anxiety also feels somewhat recent, though I can't really pin it to a certain time. The ADHD part I almost certainly have had my entire life, though. Never realized I had it until late '18/early '19, though.

Needless to say, having all this makes doing schoolwork difficult at best, and borderline impossible at worst. Tried college a little bit ago and basically flunked out.

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As a kid, I definitely had ADHD. To the disdain of my parents (and teachers), I was a kid pretty full of energy. I also had a bit of a problem with dysgraphia. My parents made an attempt at me visiting some therapy or corrective facilities, but gave it up quickly because it seemed pointless. So I never actually got a diagnosis. For grades 3.5 to 5, I was put in a Montessori school, which was kind enough to make adjustments for some of my behaviors (I was allowed to sit on a bouncing ball, for one). For grade 6 I was put in gymnasium (high school) and I adjusted quickly to being a normal student.

My parents would also always suspect autism from me... so I accepted of that as a part of my being, sort of. But I've spoken about that with friends in the past years and it surprised me to hear that I don't appear to exhibit autistic behavior to them. For example, I do perfectly fine in social situations, and I've started feeling more like an extrovert in the past few years, too. So, if I do have a form of autism, I believe it's very mild.

What I do still suffer from is ADD. The hyperactive part has gone away, but trouble with focus and concentration is definitely there. The worst part is I haven't learned to cope much, either, because I'm constantly learning that doing things late and last minutes incur little to no penalty. That's applied to both school and work. No matter how much I "fuck up" by putting things off, it always works out in the end. I have a feeling I'll be dealing with this one forever.

I'm very lucky to not suffer from depression, albeit I believe I've had enough of a window to other people who do to sympathize with how that feels.

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Posted on 05-31-19 12:09:59 PM Link | Quote
I've been thrown into the Aspergers camp ever since I was a child.

It's difficult for me to gauge exactly how it's impacted my life, but both Primary and High Schools were absolute hell for me. Not the times of pleasant memories.
Aced Math Class in Primary School. Hated the other subjects, found them very boring.

High School kept trying to push me through more and more advanced Math, but I couldn't even understand Algebra. I have no idea what was up with that. They would always say "We know you can do better!", which was, frankly, very insulting for me to feel subjected to.

It's only with the power of hindsight that the reason I felt extremely sleep deprived, ever since I started attending School, is because my body's body clock somehow locked itself into a 1-2AM through 111AM sleep schedule.
Obviously not conductive hours to any form of life - it left me feeling utterly shitfaced, especially through High School.
The end result is that I was nigh failing my classes in High School, wound up with an ATAR score of 35 (below 30 is when they literally refuse to tell you your score) - whilst all my friends who knew me well expected me to get over 90.
If a teenager is failing High School, the issue might not be laziness. It might just fucking be that they're literally too tired to learn.

Attempts to train my body to wake up at earlier hours in adulthood, has simply resulted in me having extreme bouts of irritability and anti-socialness.
Trying to force myself into earlier hours seems to kick me into a... and this is embarrassing to try and phrase, a more 'female' oriented mindset - glance at my profile's "Don't Care" regarding pronouns and use your imagination from there.
Attempting to medicate the problem with Melatonin appeared to work at first - but the effects stopped being effective after several days. Further usage of the medication is a futile exercise, and will not resolve the problem.

Through my own life circumstances, I've would up being pushed into very anxietant life circumstances - in short, the easiest solution would for me to move into my own place, away from family. Rather - not dealing with the family, or rather, one specific subset of it, at all.
But, I am broke. There is not the money nor income to move away.
I find myself often getting abuse and teasing over my own mental health problems surrounding my anxiety, and being offered "solutions" that rather drive that anxiety utterly sky high.
It's needless to say that my own living circumstances, with my very own family, even when they claim to try to be improving my health, is rather ruining it instead.
Feel free to use your imagination a bit more.

In short - Anxiety, Aspergers, and an anti-social Body Clock is the perfect recipe to have a completely ruined life, and combine that with an unsympathetic family and an overinflated housing market, and... I just feel very angry, very exhausted, and very very worn out.
Even with my own mental health being a trainwreck enough to quality for a pension that's suppose to ensure I can live my own life in solitude, and eventually carve out my own proper life with a proper job in the long run.
The reality is.
I cannot. Not the way I am currently required to live. It makes me feel pathetic and belittled.
It's only through the friends that I've had as a support network through my life that I hadn't taken any radical actions against my own body.

Sorry to be a dampener in this topic.
But I just needed to say what I needed to say.
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Posted on 06-01-19 04:38:26 AM (last edited by Tarale at 06-01-19 04:39:11 AM) Link | Quote
Nah, you're not a dampener. I get it. One of the things I feel VERY strongly about is that people need supports to reach their potential, and be safe, and be happy and it sounds like you're not getting support.

I have my own shitty baggage that I think may be explained by ASD traits. For a long time there I seemed to be an arsehole magnet. I'd find myself in abuse situations or defrauded or assaulted or whatever. It just kept happening so I concluded it was something about *ME* (kind of logically). That conclusion also led me to internalise that it was my FAULT and that I must have deserved it.

But I never figured out why I was... easy prey. Tony Attwood's book "The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome" helped explain. He touched on some of the dangers of being unable to see other people's intentions, especially if you're a woman. And it's true... I never saw any of these people's intentions. They, on the other hand, totally saw me coming a mile away... but I was always so, so naive.

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Posted on 06-02-19 08:40:37 PM Link | Quote

Very definitely autistic here. (MCDD specifically, but that's tragically not being used (much?) anymore.) And here I thought Jul was only a magnet for trans peeps and not autists as well.

I have written about this before but putting is again here:
I got diagnosed with MCDD when I was 9 or so I think? A depressive episode happened then as well (probably what led to my diagnosis) and I was admitted to a sort of mental care/school thing where they did.

Lately I've come to reflect on what they've been doing, since I was always led to believe they were helping me. That's probably partially the case, but I feel like the actual goal was to steamroll any behaviour that would make me look autistic and not "normal", my own comfort be damned. Apparently this is a more commonly felt thing. I blame no small part of my anxiety to that (though I'm not sure if they diagnosed that, I may have had it going in already) and socially desirable behaviour to that place. trauma

I also have in recent months found I'm most likely a system (A bit like Chalcedony, but the ways in which that manifests are very varied), which I'd very suspect counts as neurodiverse but...it's hard to tell or explain. I may or may not have some other interesting neurodiverse (a mild type of bipolarity?) things going on too, but never diagnosed.

In response to a few peeps:

Originally posted by Tarale
It's funny to hear some of the other "probably" things from other people, because that's how I feel as well. I read about it, and for a while I'm like OH YEAH OH MAN OH WOW, but then I just kind of... wonder if I'm... that way ENOUGH, I guess.

Autism isn't a severity contest, if that helps any.

Originally posted by Flygon
If a teenager is failing High School, the issue might not be laziness. It might just fucking be that they're literally too tired to learn.


I am not an expert on this stuff, but I have come across a thing on how laziness is mostly unhelpful and it's usually people's situations that cause this sort of stuff. I don't know how to tell how legit that is, but...


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I feel like the combination of Asperger's, general anxiety and social anxiety has been an agonizing combination. At the age of 10, I was diagnosed with Asperger's, then a few years later, with anxiety. Little did I know until recently how it's had physical effects on me, such as shaking and body pain that comes and goes away. I know I had social anxiety, but not anxiety like this.
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Posted on 07-14-19 06:11:09 PM (last edited by StapleButter at 07-14-19 06:23:30 PM) Link | Quote
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my story with neurodiversity is, well, a long one

in early childhood I had autistic child traits, like antisocial behavior, being stuck in my little world, or being way uptight about things; that mostly vanished with age tho

mom's constant paranoia (and me taking everything super seriously) didn't help my antisocial side either. like, listening to her, you'd think every stranger ever talking to me was a pedophile attempting to kidnap me. she did try teaching me "self-defense against somebody armed with a knife" (with a piece of foam), she told me to recognize the smell of gasoline in case some pyromaniac psychopath would decide to set me on fire in the streets... I'm not even making this up.

for a while I was constantly thinking about things so hard that I failed to pay attention to my surroundings. which led mom to train me to be paying attention, which worked, to some extent.

my parents had me diagnosed by several therapists and shit, who were more or less full of shit

I was eventually diagnosed as a """""gifted""""" child (and I hate that term, they make it sound like you have superior intelligence putting you above all other humans, which is blegh)

which is when mom jizzed all over herself, thinking that this meant "normal person but with betterer brain" with no downsides whatsoever, and that I would become a fucking genius and invent teleporters and shit. haha.

all the downsides that did exist were brushed off as "oh, you're just lazy", "you only do what you like", "you're rotten spoilt and always had it easy", etc.

what would you expect from the kind of parents who think the point of life is to spend all your time working a job, because they are themselves completely and entirely consumed by capitalism, to the point they have become an automaton.

I struggled to get past school and shit, barely caring despite being told about how important all this is ("work hard and you'll get a good job!!"). despite the subpar results I'd get, and eventually failing twice, mom would still cling to her genius-son fantasy. "someday he will stop being lazy..."

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I face depression, especially when I'm facing a system where I keep failing, can't find a working solution, and feel that I have no control over it. a prime example: job hunting, which is basically playing lotto except instead of winning big bucks, you win your (revocable, more and more precarious) right to live within this shitty world.

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I am transgender, either girl or nonbinary or both, I still don't know.

HRT has made depression phases really more colourful.

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I have yet to get diagnosed proper for it, but I likely have medium ADHD.

a lot of the things I read about it describe me well.

for example, how I will either tend to switch between several things, or completely fixate one one thing.

how I proceed to code shit: when The Spark comes, I can piss out a ton of code, until I'm done or until I hit a roadblock. but, outside of Spark moments, I can hardly get any work done because I'll keep doing other things.

I can mostly manage to get shit done in time though. like that job I had, that lasted 6mo. I spent more than half of it idling on the web or working on melonDS. yet, I did finish the project.

I have trouble getting started on ie. coding new features. I'll want to wrap my mind around the whole thing, but fail to do so, or keep worrying about some hypothetical problem, or whatever.

CoinKiller would be a perfect example of ADHD-coding. basically, I raced through the technically interesting, challenging parts (building the level renderer), then... could not motivate myself to build the rest, and eventually RicBent and other people picked it up and made it into a functional editor.

my other projects are more or less representative of that pattern too. melonDS would be my longest-lasting and most successful project so far (it's gotten to a point where people actually like it and use it for regular gameplay), but reading the melonDS blog would show you that the development process hasn't always been steady. most notably, the pace went noticeably down after most of the DS emulation was covered.

I have my own project graveyard too. (and I need to update that page)

in less code-y notes, other things... like how I always have various random objects around my computer, and keep fidgeting with them. how I constantly feel the need to change position when I'm sitting down or laying down, or even when standing still. how I tend to always need to do something. how I can sometimes decide to walk to the next bus stop instead of waiting. how I sometimes start something then branch off to something else entirely... how I always get that feeling that I'm forgetting something, and have to check, even though generally I'm not forgetting anything, that's weird.

I have a hard time with conversations/etc that involve more than two people. I have trouble finding when to speak and be listened to, although that'd be more of an anxiety related thing? I have a hard time fixating on what the person facing me is telling me if there's another conversation going on at the same time, or if there's music playing... or even sometimes I'll be trying to listen to somebody, or read text, but my brain will not want to fixate on it, and I will have to read it again and again to get some understanding (or, if somebody's talking to me, I'll be thinking about something else).

(or, the opposite, when I just want to rest, but something's going on and my brain fixates on it)

I have a hard time falling asleep when I want to sleep. I'll want to think about things, like how I'm constantly thinking about something or something else.

and I'm refreshing other tabs at the same time as I'm writing this. heh

I guess my brain wants to get this post finished already.

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Posted on 07-14-19 07:26:53 PM (last edited by Jamie at 07-14-19 07:29:17 PM) Link | Quote
tbh I could kinda tell you had some sort of trait in that way, ever since a long time @StapleButter

and yeah the whole intelligence purely based on academic ability or whatever is pure shit, which is something you hinted at was very prevalent in the way you were treated as a kid.

being intelligent isn't about grade level and that's seemingly the only thing modern society wants is a good grade out of you rather than anything else

sorry if I screwed your point a bit aside but eh

on the subject, if it isn't obvious if you know me enough to have seen the shit I pulled, i'm some sort of bipolar/borderline thing with autism. doesn't make anything I've pulled in the past at all excusable tho

especially the fact nothing will improve with me
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I'm usually cautious about associating any mental problem with myself until I'm absolutely sure that I have it. Not something I'd recommend to other people, just what I prefer for myself. I still cling on to a "rational and collected" image of myself even though I know that that's really just a facade more than anything. At least it works as a good barrier to keep toxic people away.

I have high levels of Neuroticism, but because I tend to go quiet around people I don't know well, few people are actually going to notice whenever I'm a bad mood. The only thing I know for sure is that I have some sort of anxiety problem (generalized anxiety?) but I don't know which one exactly. Not sure if I qualify for ADHD or not. Probably not.

I'll tend to put a lot of things on my to-do list, do some of them, save the rest in a file somewhere and go do something else. In the end I get a lot of "to-do" files that I'll just have to organize whenever I feel like it. Though I'll say, when I actually take the time to organize that crap, it feels really relieving.

I tend to be a bit too sensitive at times (specially when it comes to criticism, unfortunately), but like I said earlier, you'd probably not notice this normally because it ends up mostly internalized. I can get trapped inside my own head/thoughts easily, even sometimes where it would be best if I didn't. I've been getting better at keeping the self-defeating and self-depreciative thoughts away but sometimes they pop up anyway.

I tend to get distracted and lose track of time. A good solution to that is to not get distracted, but then that leaves things on the to-do list (which I want to avoid because I want to complete tasks, not put more tasks for me to do), so it's kinda like a "pick your poison" situation.

Some people I've met thought I had autism. I can see why they'd think that, specially when I was a kid since I was really foolish back then, but I think I wised up a fair bit since then (even if I'm now more pessimistic as a result of that). I used to overthink things a lot more back then too. Nowadays it's mostly just awkwardness and me warming up to people. It tends to disappear with time.

I don't have depression but I have gone through depressive periods in my life when I couldn't see any way forward. My father, on the other hand, has heavy depression and needs medication in order to function properly.
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one thing I found with associating myself with a label, 'trans' or 'ADHD' or whatever, is that it helps me feel legitimate. may sound silly, but for example, before I knew I was trans, I thought I was weird for having these gender-confused thoughts, occasional bouts of crossdressing, etc... then I found out and it was like 'okay, so I'm not weird, I'm trans'.

this is kind of the same thing. I always had the typical shit like 'you're lazy', 'you're squandering your potential', etc... that was starting to get to me. eventually I found anticapitalism which gave me a wall against that that wasn't solely vainglory, but even then, I felt that guilt when I was at that job and saw colleagues always working on something but I was slacking off most of the time. even though I knew that the slacking-off was part of my equilibrium.

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In case anyone was wondering I finally finished that article I was writing about my experiences with ADHD.

But yeah, labels are weird. They're helpful if used properly, I feel. Knowing that there's other people out there that have the same struggles that you have and knowing that it's caused by something is such a good feeling. It gives you hope and a path to improve yourself.

But, IMO, you do have to use the labels to improve yourself. I'm generally against giving myself a label so I can say "welp, guess there's nothing I can do about that". Maybe this isn't quite how it's supposed to go, but I don't associate with a label unless I know doing so will help me in the long run.

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I'm surprised I haven't seen this thread before today, but I figure that now I have I should post in it since I'm tall enough to ride.

I have Asperger's syndrome (and also acute depression, but I'm not convinced that that crosses over from mental disorder to neurodiversion). When I was in the first grade, it was thought that I had ADHD, and I was put on Adderall, but that only made me worse.



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I won't delve into too many details but I'm an aspie, much like most of everyone here more or less.

Also, add to that OCD, anxiety issues, etc etc etc blah blah blah.

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Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
Lobby your company to join the W3C: http://www.w3.org/Consortium

Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md