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Posted on 10-25-18 10:24:30 AM Link | Quote
I made a thread asking for a GBA Music player on GBA back , wow, July this year, because I got again into GBA gaming.

I didn't find a GBA music player for GBA, but I played some GBA games since then, some unusual ones, like motoGP for GBA, which I enjoyed more than I thought.

After a trip to a local retro gaming store, I bought some more GBA games for my collection and playing trough them. Also rediscovered some games I own since release and finally played trough.

I was at a console LAN party / con and I and a friend played trough some co-op GBA games. I finally played and almost finished Doom that weekend. It has a chopy framerate and is not the best way to play Doom, but it was fun with a friend. Until we got to one of the last levels and we had no items left to solve the puzzle. And it's impossible to save in multiplayer. That's when we quit, instead of playing trough all the levels, again.

Also Kim Possible III: Team Possible is an albight quite short, but enjoyable co-op experience. Almost unplayable playing alone, because Player 1 plays as Kim, and Player 2 as Ron in a well thought out platformer. Both characters have different skills and moveset and it was fun to help each other out in those three levels.
Yes, only three (3) levels! That was dissapointing.

After that we got into a race for the e-reader Levels on SMA4-e, but had to stop as the event was going to end.


I don't know yet what I will play later, maybe some Iridion 3D or Motoracer Advance.

Any GBA games you like or played recently?
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Posted on 10-25-18 01:01:04 PM (last edited by Jamie at 10-25-18 01:01:20 PM) Link | Quote
It's just a shame so many fake GBA carts exist on ebay and the likes and have no save batteries. Though gba was a brilliant console; the DS was a disappointement compared to it IMO because worse hardware relatively speaking and more shovelcrapo - oh and MKSC > MKDS anyday
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Posted on 10-25-18 06:53:13 PM Link | Quote
The GBA gave rise to my favourite Nintendo series of all time in its modern form, Advance Wars.

Considering it was what thrust me into actually being interested in ROMhacking, I'm pretty keen.

I may have spent a good thousand+ hours on each entry in the series.
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Posted on 10-25-18 06:55:38 PM Link | Quote
If we're talking super recently, this about a week or so ago.
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Posted on 10-25-18 11:17:23 PM Link | Quote
Maybe this is a silly thing to appreciate, given that it's not a game, but I love the aesthetic of the original GBA:



The foggy translucent icy look, the white/grey buttons, the trim on the side, the form factor of the thing in general, it's delicious auuuuuugh I want to lick it. And maybe this is controversial, but I think it feels a lot better than the SP. The only thing it's missing is a backlight, but there's ways to rectify that. It might be my favorite Nintendo handheld ever. And there's a ton of contenders (DS Phat and Lite, the original Game Boy, the Game Boy Pocket, the Game Boy Color, the 2DS XL and the New 3DS ugh god they're all so good so so so good Nintendo's handhelds rule they're amazingly good).

The Micro is pretty lovely, too. My girlfriend owns this awesome thing that I've started to use as my main GBA.

Also Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zero Mission, Wario Land 4 and the first Wario Ware... ugh I love those games so much. I got a lot of mileage out of the Advance Wars games, too, when I was young.
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Posted on 10-25-18 11:39:10 PM Link | Quote
The audio subsystem might have been garbage, but there was still some absolutely fantastic composers for the machine...
A shame most of their works only had good fidelity with the advent of PC-based players.

Ian Stocker, in particular, has been digging up their original tracker files for GBA software they worked on, and uploading them to YouTube.
It's funny that such an iffy audio subsystem could drag out some killer tracker musicians.

The graphics hardware was at least kickass!...
Except for the bit where the original backlight-less GBA screen was complete garbage.
I heard that the story behind it was that they originally designed it around a backlight, then the backlight got removed because it used up too much better, and then they didn't replace the LCD with the type the GBC used where ambient light reflected better onto the pixels?
I don't remember the exact details, but it's a complete mess.

As for the games I actually played through as a kid. I barely had many.
I didn't have a flashcart (nor had I yet to know they existed), and I was essentially limited to getting one game a year, on Christmas. If even that. Money was a bit tight.

So all I really had for the machine were Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. Never did have Fire Red or Leaf Green. As much as I wanted them.

Actually, that's not the complete truth. I also had Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. The GBA version.
It's... not really all that good.
Pretty art. That's about it.

By the time I had gotten to know more of the GBA's library, I was very much a DS gamer by that point. Not a lot of GBA games did interest me.
I did, eventually, get a flashcart for the express purpose of playing the MOTHER 3 fan translation, however. And played it on a Game Boy Micro I had managed to obtain by that point.

I believe I also played through the first Golden Sun, after being introduced to the series by an ex. I attempted to play through the second game in the series, but the fetch quest I had to go through eventually got me completely lost and confused.
I never finished that game, regretfully.
If it weren't for the (rather poorly designed) fetch quest, I would have no doubt been able to complete the game. The battle system was excellent.


So, that's essentially my GBA history.
Not really all that exciting, but certainly with many feelings towards the machine.
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Posted on 10-26-18 11:14:01 AM Link | Quote
Fake GBA carts are a menace, but until now I was in luck and only got originals.
It helps to buy boxed stuff, but it can get quite expensive.


The GBA Sound has it's quirks, but somehow, I love it. Mostly those which embrace the GB's soundchip and use the GBAs digital channels for enhancements. But even then, there are some really great tunes out there!

Just don't compare the SNES ports with the original, it'll hurt, so much.
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Posted on 10-26-18 12:57:38 PM Link | Quote
The GBA was, and really still is, a great little machine. It has its flaws (ex. no light until SP, no backlight until AGS-101 SP) but those aside, it's a solid system with a very nice library.

Even with the aforementioned lack of integrated light, and only ever having had an original GBA and then an original DS during its time, I have fond memories of being hunched over the machine, under my desk lamp, playing ex. Mega Man Battle Network. In retrospect, that was a terrible way of playing games - however, it was fun regardless.

I didn't have many games for it back then, and I still "only" have 34 in total, but stuff like MMBN3, Sonic Advance, F-Zero GP Legend and Gunstar Future(/Super) Heroes, in my opinion, was good then and still is today. I've since acquired and played a lot more, like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Kurukuru Kururin, the Mega Man Zero series, Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission, Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen, Puyo Pop, Dragon Ball: Advanced Adventure, and so on, and so forth. All stuff that someone looking into the GBA for the first time should at least try out, I'd say.

There's also been a couple of games I tried out via emulation first and since bought, mainly some imports like Crayon Shin-chan: Cinemaland no Daibouken (good platformer by Inti Creates of ex. Mega Man Zero fame) or Rockman EXE 4.5: Real Operation (neat if you're a fan of the series, as you can ex. choose your own NetNavi - do note the real-time clock will have stopped working by now, sadly rendering parts of [a lot of?] the game useless).

I never thought of the GBA sounding like crap, tho maybe there just were good composers on all the games I played? Speaking of which, again I shall mention Mega Man Zero, because those games have damn great soundtracks - including various OST albums.

After all the gushing about the GBA tho, I gotta admit that I haven't played too many of its games recently. I did get Pokemon LeafGreen a couple of months ago and have been playing through that, but on my DS Lite. That game aside I feel like, out of all of Nintendo's pre-3DS handhelds, I've been playing less GBA than GB/GBC and especially DS over the last couple of years.

(And as a side note, I personally like Mario Kart DS a lot more than Super Circuit, but then again, I like the original SNES one less than ex. MK64 as well, so maybe it's that style in general I don't like as much. Still good games despite that!)
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Posted on 10-26-18 07:14:20 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rambly
Maybe this is a silly thing to appreciate, given that it's not a game, but I love the aesthetic of the original GBA:



The foggy translucent icy look, the white/grey buttons, the trim on the side, the form factor of the thing in general, it's delicious auuuuuugh I want to lick it. And maybe this is controversial, but I think it feels a lot better than the SP.

The SP has the same problem the old NES controllers had; they're square-edged and not terribly comfortable to use. Didn't help that the buttons were distinctly clicky and didn't smoosh in very far, but that's personal preference.

I think the GBC had a better form factor (plus who could argue with atomic purple), but the original GBA was definitely up there. Really, just the era of having that sort of transparent shit in general was really nice
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Posted on 10-26-18 07:30:18 PM Link | Quote
Old GBAs are indeed very pretty. I still have mine; I need to clean it up and bring it back into use.

I love the GBA's library to death honestly -- was a large part of what I played growing up. Drill Dozer is a particularly interesting less-known GBA game -- gamefreak-developed platformer that revolved around a drill mech with a shifting system. You got first, second and third gears as the level progressed and could do things like reversing to recoil out of blocks you were drilling into, using the drill to bounce over enemies, putting a propeller on your drill and using it to travel through water, etc. Lots of creative puzzles with things like threaded pipes, fragile timed blocks, ziplines, catapults... The music and art are stellar too, and there are tons of optional levels and treasure to connect where the puzzle difficulty rises pretty sharply.

Other than that, the obvious suspects like Minish Cap, Golden Sun, Metroid Zero Mission the Final Fantasy ports, etc. were great fun. It was just an all-around great console IMO.
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Posted on 10-26-18 11:26:51 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by xdaniel
I never thought of the GBA sounding like crap, tho maybe there just were good composers on all the games I played? Speaking of which, again I shall mention Mega Man Zero, because those games have damn great soundtracks - including various OST albums.

Good composers, problematic sound hardware.

Compare the quality of actual game recording to (mildly remastered) original tracker file.
A 16 channel track being softmixed by the CPU, and then being PWMized by the actual sound hardware is a recipe for... well, a lot of issues, actually.

I noticed that a lot of GBA games I played when I was younger, that skewed towards using the softmixing side of the hardware, tended to sound incredibly muffled and aliasingy.

It's a real shame they didn't put in a proper decent 8-16 channel PCM sound hardware inside, much like they ended up doing with the DS.
I feel with great honesty it would've helped the audio quality side of things sound so much nicer.


Of course, a lot of games also just had rubbish quality soundfonts. Or even inexplicably having both high and low quality soundbanks both inside the ROM - looking at you, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Red.
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Posted on 10-26-18 11:47:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Flygon
Good composers, problematic sound hardware.

Compare the quality of actual game recording to (mildly remastered) original tracker file.
[...]

Well, huh! You're right. I might've noticed the sound being a bit muffled or something before, but just ascribed that to the speaker, and that got so ingrained that I never questioned it again...?

Headphones on a real system (well, DS Lite) and even mGBA sound somewhat muffled, now that I take a closer listen - Super Mario Advance's title theme via mGBA, for example, actually sounds kinda terrible. Pokemon LeafGreen's intro and title theme, on the other hand - and both, emulated and via DS Lite -, aren't that bad.

...huh. That's a TIL for me, I guess.
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Posted on 10-27-18 12:03:40 AM Link | Quote
I'm not sure if it's my favorite Nintendo handheld, but I liked the GBA a lot. I got the standard opaque purple one, which isn't much to look at, but it felt nice to hold. I actually got one before I got any games for it, so I spent a while just playing my GBC games on it while anticipating my first GBA game.

I feel like I missed out on a lot of the usually cited best GBA games. I never played the Metroids, Minish Cap, FFTA, Aria of Sorrow, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, etc. Actually, most of my GBA games are ports or remakes, but I enjoyed those a lot and didn't have many of the originals anyway. My favorite originals, though, were Pokémon Emerald, Mario & Luigi, and Mother 3.

Actually, there was a good while where Mother 3 was my favorite game overall, and it's the only game I own two physical copies of; I have a completed save on each of them, and those playthroughs were before the game was properly translated. I mostly relied on guides and a very basic translation of some of the main dialogue.

I never got a Game Boy SP, but I did get a Game Boy Micro. Back in around 2007, I saved up my money for a long time and bought the Mother 3 Deluxe Box, which came with a Mother 3 branded Game Boy Micro (and what would be my second copy of the game itself). The Game Boy Micro itself is really nice to look at and has a very nice screen with adjustable brightness. However, it's just a little too small, which can make it somewhat awkward to play, but it's otherwise my favorite way to play GBA games. By then, the DS had been out for a few years, though, so it didn't see a whole lot of use from me.
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Posted on 10-27-18 12:12:03 AM (last edited by Scooblee at 10-27-18 12:12:39 AM) Link | Quote
as always, there's demoscene showing off with really nice software-mixed PWM audio
so maybe you just need to be a wizard or Bernhard Wodok/Manfred Linzner? to be able to get something decent out of those silly little sample channels :p

(gosh I love this soundtrack)


..uhm, music gushing aside, I kinda didn't first experience anything GBA until I first got a DS Lite.
the backwards compatibility of which allowed me to check out all those games that I always saw on shelves, but could never play (I still never got to own a GBA Video cart tho)

nowdays, that DS Lite is worn down (it still works, but the d-pad is real unresponsive so good luck moving right at all)
but I bought a wide GBA a few years back and now that's kinda my go-to for anything GB, heh
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Posted on 10-27-18 05:20:21 PM Link | Quote
I still have my SP.

Even so far as to get an EverDrive X5 with it not long ago. Been a nice thing to have.
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Posted on 10-28-18 02:01:18 AM Link | Quote
I forgot the absolute worst part of the SP which was the bizarre, fucked up adapter you had to use for headphones, that basically nobody had. So nobody ever did.
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Posted on 10-28-18 02:03:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
I forgot the absolute worst part of the SP which was the bizarre, fucked up adapter you had to use for headphones, that basically nobody had. So nobody ever did.

I have a third party headphone adapter by MadCatz that even allows you to *charge* while listening to headphones!

The fact that the official adapter doesn't let you charge just completely baffles me.
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Posted on 10-28-18 02:11:25 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
I forgot the absolute worst part of the SP which was the bizarre, fucked up adapter you had to use for headphones, that basically nobody had. So nobody ever did.


I've got this sitting next to me, actually.
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Posted on 10-28-18 02:33:12 AM Link | Quote
I liked the original GBA the best because of how easy it was to hold and how well it fits in pockets. Another thing the GBA had was a soundfont that, when used right, it made some awesome tunes.

The GBA Castlevania trilogy remains one of my favorite because of how well Konami made these games. Metroid Fusion/Zero Mission were also great and I spent quite some time with those games. Always wanted to give the Mega Man Battle Network games another go but I just don't seem to have time for them.
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Posted on 10-28-18 03:27:59 AM Link | Quote
GBA SP, headphones, adapters...



"...well, that's stupid." Some bad choices regarding the connectors and the like on this model, I think.



Speaking of models, while I haven't actually played it in recent years, I do have a very soft spot for the GB Micro; ex. love the screen on that one, looks very bright and sharp. Got it at the tail end of a vacation in France in 2007, where it was on clearance for I think ~20 Euro. Ended up playing a ton of the aforementioned Rockman EXE 4.5 on it on the way back home - I called the whole thing "the world's smallest PET"
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