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Posted on 09-17-18 04:38:10 PM (last edited by Luigigamer4718 at 09-18-18 08:13:00 AM) Link | Quote
http://iwarg.ddns.net/aim
http://escargot.log1p.xyz/

Anyone use these? Quite cool and nostalgic for that early 2k experience, I suppose.

I mean sure there's loads of alternatives to surpass it, but IMO MSN holds so much nostalgia and had a great UX (pre-Live) and was funky featured a bit like AB

EDIT: If you want to talk to me on Escargot, add me: jamie [guesswhat] cirno [fullstop] tokyo
Using MSN Messenger 7.5 on XP (real hardware) works for me fine.
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Posted on 09-17-18 11:24:27 PM (last edited by Toshi at 09-18-18 12:47:21 AM) Link | Quote
the only experience i had with AIM was when i was screwing around with a windows 98/XP PC i had 3 years ago. never used MSN messenger in my life.

i may look into this in the future, seems pretty cool.

EDIT: i got AIM to work, but MSN refuses to log me in.



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Posted on 09-17-18 11:25:39 PM Link | Quote
i've been doing the whole windows XP VM thing and i've been thinking about playing around with these for a loooong time, so i might get on these soon actually

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Posted on 09-18-18 05:58:40 AM (last edited by Luigigamer4718 at 09-18-18 05:59:45 AM) Link | Quote
 
If you're having trouble with MSN in XP, try updating the root certificates in WXP with this tool:

certs.zip

And then disable certificate checking in IE8 options. That should make it work. The reason behind the certs being out of date is because MS have since removed the files that update XP's root certificates (the same files used by Vista), since September 13.

If it still doesn't work, do the POSReady trick, go to catalog.update.microsoft.com, and install the Internet Explorer 8 cumulative security update from 2018-09 for POSReady 2009, and KB4019726, in reverse order of how I wrote. Then edit the registry (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > Software > Microsoft > Internet Explorer > AdvancedOptions > CRYPTO) and then go to TLS1.1 and TLS1.2 and delete the OSVersion key. Then enable TLS 1.1 and 1.2 in IE8 settings.



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Posted on 09-19-18 12:02:44 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jamie
If you're having trouble with MSN in XP, try updating the root certificates in WXP with this tool:

certs.zip

And then disable certificate checking in IE8 options. That should make it work. The reason behind the certs being out of date is because MS have since removed the files that update XP's root certificates (the same files used by Vista), since September 13.

If it still doesn't work, do the POSReady trick, go to catalog.update.microsoft.com, and install the Internet Explorer 8 cumulative security update from 2018-09 for POSReady 2009, and KB4019726, in reverse order of how I wrote. Then edit the registry (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > Software > Microsoft > Internet Explorer > AdvancedOptions > CRYPTO) and then go to TLS1.1 and TLS1.2 and delete the OSVersion key. Then enable TLS 1.1 and 1.2 in IE8 settings.


switched to XP and it finally worked!!



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Posted on 09-19-18 06:34:49 AM Link | Quote
 
Glad it works for you now!

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Posted on 09-22-18 05:09:35 AM (last edited by Higsby at 10-11-18 03:45:04 AM) Link | Quote
I am super nostalgic for MSN Messenger, and consider chatting on it late into the night with my friends some of my fondest childhood memories. Years ago I used the Messenger Reviver to attempt to relive those happy times, although eventually it stopped working so I figured that was the end of the road. I hadn't heard that there are now alt servers available though, so thank you so much for bringing this to my attention!

I installed MSN Messenger 7.5, and would love to chat with others! Please PM me if you would like to add me!
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Posted on 09-22-18 11:14:11 AM Link | Quote
This is neat. I don't think I actually want to use it, but it makes me feel good that it exists.

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Posted on 09-23-18 06:10:13 AM Link | Quote
I got AIM Phoenix and Escargot accounts, for whatever reason:

AIM: rambly
MSN: rachel@goopy.space

I'm having some difficulty logging onto AIM at the moment -- I'm hoping I'll be able to fix that at some point. Windows 10 does not seem to like AIM at alllll (even with compatibility mode enabled, it freezes my system to the point of unusability, which is... weird), and MSN's not working in my XP VM and I'm wayyyy too lazy to work on those fixes right now. I figured between keeping an XP VM open just for AIM, and not running an entire VM all the time and only having MSN, I'd just pick the latter. At least, for now... that could change.

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Posted on 09-23-18 06:34:15 AM Link | Quote
 
I'll have to update the fixes link. I accidentally wiped my entire homedir for some reason...

Anyway Rambly I'll add you there soon

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Posted on 09-23-18 12:52:19 PM (last edited by Toshi at 09-23-18 12:52:30 PM) Link | Quote
80048821 fix

kept getting an 80048821 error during logging in and this seemed to fix it

AIM: alantoshi
MSN: ZWlmZXJzaXNhZnVycnlAZ21haWwuY29t (base64 to prevent spambots )

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Posted on 09-23-18 05:08:34 PM Link | Quote
Oh hey, I have an Escargot too. I use it sometimes. (PM me for the email though. Don't want any unmentionables finding it.)

I would use AIM more, but it crashes my PC every time I use it, so.

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Posted on 09-24-18 07:57:35 AM Link | Quote
 
Pidgin IM and the AIM plugin would work too I guess

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Posted on 11-18-18 11:41:25 AM Link | Quote
Anyone here still wanting to chat with someone on Escargot? Because I do, this empty contacts list is a bit sad. Add me with the email in my profile.

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Posted on 11-19-18 03:10:27 PM Link | Quote
Chat clients kinda went the way of the dodo bird when Steam moved in. Then Skype later. Then finally Discord, where I've arrived at now. Especially since IRC basically worked directly with it. Haven't really had the will to touch AIM/MSN/etc. in about a decade or so now.

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Posted on 11-19-18 03:45:26 PM Link | Quote
I'm just glad this exists because it gives me a reason to be lazy and not update the AIM field

I don't know if Steam really usurped the messaging scene as much as Skype did; Steam was a lot more ~gamer focused~ (what with it being primarily a game distribution platform and all).


Telegram and Signal and such still see pretty good usage, too, so the desire for a good standalone IM client seems to exist... though I really do miss the ease and nostalgia of AIM.

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Posted on 11-21-18 08:12:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lucidiot
Anyone here still wanting to chat with someone on Escargot? Because I do, this empty contacts list is a bit sad. Add me with the email in my profile.

I might, but I'm a bit wary of putting my email out in the open. Feel free to PM me for my address.

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Posted on 11-27-18 02:03:09 AM Link | Quote
I totally miss those late nights on AIM/Y!M/MSN chatting with my friends, but it's not those apps I missed (Never used 'em! Was always a trillian then pidgin user!), it's the real connections I made with people from forums Just Like This&tm;

I'd like to jump on something like this but since leaving school, socializing has just been so hard for me. I feel like I can't find the time to even jump on a computer let alone sit and chat for hours like I used to. Instant messaging was cool, but at this point in my life I can only use asynchronous messaging.

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Posted on 10-15-20 06:49:29 PM Link | Quote

got 7.5 working in windows 7, pm me here or on discord for my email

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Posted on 10-15-20 06:51:37 PM Link | Quote
update: i lost my escargot password, so i'm now rambly@goopy.space there instead. not "rachel"!

haven't been on AIM lately because i haven't gotten phoenix to actually connect properly yet. if anyone else has experienced this problem and has a workaround, let me know!

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line 571 column 1019 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 578 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 751 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 751 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 760 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 765 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 745 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 211 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 243 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 269 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 304 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 341 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 569 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 621 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 738 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 346 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md