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Posted on 07-01-21 11:50:39 PM Link | Quote
retroarch is utter arse and the only time I use it is when I have no other options.

The lead dev is a gigantic arsehole too and is known to harass both emulator authors when they don't make retroarch specific features, and the userbase.
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Posted on 07-09-21 11:33:02 AM (last edited by RanAS at 07-09-21 12:10:31 PM) Link | Quote
I hate RetroArch and its UI (rgui makes it better but it's still annoying), but as with everyone else, it is convenient and some emulators just don't make themselves available through a UI at all, making it really the only option. Genesis Plus GX and ParaLLEl come to mind.

Also the hostility sometimes shared between RetroArch and other emulator devs is just petty and sad to see.

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I haven't said anything about OLED because it's just not present in my life at all. Everything I see everywhere is just LCD. I honestly didn't know a whole lot about OLED, even the whole "screen burn-in" thing was something I just didn't know 'til recently!

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Posted on 01-22-22 09:12:57 PM Link | Quote
x86 is a shit architecture made by shit companies lol

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Posted on 01-23-22 08:51:23 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by rokken
x86 is a shit architecture made by shit companies lol


lol, that reminds me that i know of someone that thinks ARM is the devil for some strange reason??

i kinda wanna try the powerpc architecture one of these days, although im not sure how i would go along doing that...

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Posted on 01-23-22 09:07:38 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by rokken
x86 is a shit architecture made by shit companies lol

a couple weeks ago i was on a spree of installing old versions of Mac OS in QEMU PowerPC to pass the time, and started thinking it would be funny if i had a gag where i swore by PowerPC and wrote off x86. i'm glad to find someone that believes this

Originally posted by SC
lol, that reminds me that i know of someone that thinks ARM is the devil for some strange reason??

oh, i know someone like this too. they're a joy to talk to, they go on all sorts of rants about very specific things regarding computing

Originally posted by SC
i kinda wanna try the powerpc architecture one of these days, although im not sure how i would go along doing that...

running qemu-system-ppc is relatively simple, and cheaper than buying an old powerpc mac, albeit slower. i had a lot of fun with the VMs, but when i was briefly using a PowerBook G4 around a year or two ago, it was really surprising to me how, i dunno, not-sluggish it was? and the battery still held up normally. kinda felt like i was just resuming my childhood for a brief moment

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Posted on 01-23-22 09:42:31 PM Link | Quote

full keyboard layouts are by far the best layouts, the numpad is a useful input area to the point where i'd much rather have one then not and i can't ever imagine not having the arrow cluster

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Posted on 01-23-22 11:37:43 PM (last edited by rokken at 01-23-22 11:37:55 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kaj
Originally posted by rokken
x86 is a shit architecture made by shit companies lol

a couple weeks ago i was on a spree of installing old versions of Mac OS in QEMU PowerPC to pass the time, and started thinking it would be funny if i had a gag where i swore by PowerPC and wrote off x86. i'm glad to find someone that believes this

Happy to provide.

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Posted on 01-24-22 02:37:15 AM (last edited by Kaj at 01-24-22 02:37:34 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by DarkWitchClaire
full keyboard layouts are by far the best layouts, the numpad is a useful input area to the point where i'd much rather have one then not and i can't ever imagine not having the arrow cluster

i'd agree for windows, but as far as macs go, i think i prefer using the command key instead of page up and page down. it's nice having a proper "super key". otherwise, i never really used the numpad

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Posted on 01-24-22 02:24:51 PM (last edited by rokken at 01-24-22 05:36:30 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by SC
Originally posted by rokken
x86 is a shit architecture made by shit companies lol


lol, that reminds me that i know of someone that thinks ARM is the devil for some strange reason??

i kinda wanna try the powerpc architecture one of these days, although im not sure how i would go along doing that...

Depends on if you just want to try the software ecosystem or have the actual experience. For the former, QEMU is probably enough, but for the latter I'd suggest probably looking for a PowerBook G4 or a later iBook G4 and if you like it grabbing a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver or PCIe G5 for the expansion ports and swappable GPU (you can shove an AGP HD 3850 in the G4 and an HD 6970 in the G5 if you're using Linux or a BSD that supports it). There is a project going on right now for an open source hardware laptop using a QoriQ T2080 dual-core 1.8GHz processor, but that's not out of testing yet and the T2080's AltiVec only works in big-endian, where most PPC64 Linux stuff is focused on little-endian so that maintaining a port of x64 software doesn't take as much work. It's not like there's no software for big endian, the difference is only a few percent, but stuff like Firefox you definitely feel it. Big endian Firefox 96 doesn't have a Javascript JIT, where little does.

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Posted on 01-24-22 04:59:38 PM (last edited by Kaj at 01-24-22 04:59:51 PM) Link | Quote
i was running Mac OS X 10.0-10.4 in qemu recently, it was very slow, but that was also running on my 2012 MacBook Pro, with whatever Apple's hypervisor is(?)

still cool tho

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Posted on 01-24-22 05:35:19 PM (last edited by rokken at 01-24-22 05:38:25 PM) Link | Quote
10.0 and 10.1 are just really slow, terrible OSes that nobody likes. It took until 10.2 Jaguar for X to not just be a novelty you played with before going back to 8.6 or 9.1 to do actual work. 10.3 is the fastest of them, but considering you need to to full system emulation, I wouldn't expect it to be especially fast, and 10.4 and 10.5 get all of the new software written for them. On real hardware, 10.4 is comfortable on even pretty slow systems, it's just doable on my 450MHz G4 tower for instance. It definitely helps to have a faster system, though -- my PowerBook G4 at 1.5GHz runs Tiger very smoothly. L3 cache beats clock speed, so something with a 7455 will be faster than a 7447 that's clocked higher. A 7448 can beat it out through sheer cycles per second, getting up to 2.5GHz, but Apple never used them for whatever reason.
I've never really been too happy with emulation, whether emulating a PC or a game console, but I definitely acknowledge it's more of a collector's market these days, even if I kind of rue that fact I'm at least grateful that it gives people a reason to sell their machines rather than gut them and stuff them with Mac minis or just kind of chuck them in the garbage. Sometimes you'll find a decent deal on offerup, like the aforementioned G4/450 that I got for $30, but it's definitely the exception and not the rule, so I really don't blame you, just that you aren't really getting a super true picture if you're emulating a whole computer on a laptop with a different architecture.

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Posted on 01-24-22 05:44:08 PM (last edited by Kaj at 01-24-22 05:44:21 PM) Link | Quote
isn't discord super slow on that old of hardware though (unless you get ripcord or something)

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Posted on 01-24-22 05:48:52 PM (last edited by rokken at 01-24-22 05:54:22 PM) Link | Quote
It depends on how much else you have open, but it's generally at least usable unless you're on Leopard with a web browser, the GIMP, and YouTube all open as well. There's a client written in Objective-C, Discord Lite, that apparently runs really well but I couldn't log into my account when I tried to use it.
Edit: I just tried it again and it worked. I can say that with a web browser open, it is still pretty quick to use.

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Posted on 01-24-22 06:20:59 PM Link | Quote
come to think of it, the web client for discord performs like shit on my 2012 macbook pro anyway... :S

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Posted on 01-25-22 07:47:13 AM (last edited by sofi at 01-25-22 10:34:04 AM) Link | Quote

Originally posted by DarkWitchClaire
full keyboard layouts are by far the best layouts, the numpad is a useful input area to the point where i'd much rather have one then not and i can't ever imagine not having the arrow cluster

i'm in agreement with you here; i think it's a shame that small layouts ever became standard. ok, i understand for small devices of course, or for circumstances where you must be portable, but otherwise i don't understand the point.

people seem to value these smaller keyboards on their desk setups to conserve space. but to what end? i looked up early computer set-ups to see just how they differed from modern ones and although there are indeed some `atrocities' out there, many of them manage to fit a lot into a small space (i.e. they are dense set-ups)


(source: flickr)


(source: applefritter.com, 360.here.com)

in comparison, modern set-ups seem to value empty space. there is something oddly suburban about the way many desks (the likes of which you see on r/battlestations for example) look these days, as if the logic of urban planning has trickled down into our logic of desk arrangement. but what do people even do with that empty space? in theory, you can write, read, play games, etc. on it. but i struggle to be convinced people actually do that or that… even in my set-up, which involved a lot of empty space, i still found myself retreating elsewhere to do anything that doesn't necessitate the desktop computer directly. i hardly ever write by hand, but when i do, it's at my kitchen table. i read in bed, or on a beanbag chair. i play handheld games anywhere i can sit or lie down. taking apart electronics, working with screwdrivers, even all that happens elsewhere. are my habits a relic of these vertically integrated desk-for-computer times? or have we suburbanised our desks and created empty parking lots within our own homes?


the suburbanisation of the desk (source: reddit, flickr)

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Posted on 01-25-22 11:12:56 AM Link | Quote
i can't imagine a human persistently even having a perfectly clean desk, there's always something going on on mine, as obsessively tidy as i am, whether it be paper, headphones, my microphone and audio interface, or especially if you're the kind of person with a shit ton of audio gear and synthesizers and stuff

that's a really good observation, sofi... it is very suburban, my family always kept every surface empty, everything put away, nothing in an in-between state. no works in progress, everything is finished, everything is perfect

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Posted on 01-27-22 09:11:35 PM (last edited by rokken at 01-27-22 09:12:54 PM) Link | Quote
That... makes a lot of sense. I knew I really didn't like the whole germaphobic "clean" thing people had, and this is the best explanation as to why. I always have something on my desk, like cups, books, projects I haven't worked on in two years, my reindeer doll... come to think of it, it kinda feels uncanny, like it's not an actual desk actual people sit at.
I guess it melds in perfectly with my general dislike of whitespace (which is honestly the whole reason I joined jul, the forum software).

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Posted on 01-28-22 12:08:27 AM Link | Quote
cleanliness is interesting because there's always someone that can see me as a neat-freak in the same world that my parents can see me as messy

i'm really organized with my files, i try to keep my home folders and external drives organized, and i really don't like having desktop icons unless they pertain to something i am presently working on. when i'm using windows, i keep the start menu from having too many folders, and i delete url shortcuts and uninstallers that i don't need. it's a bit obsessive but carefully making sure my computer doesn't overwhelm me A. gives me an illusion of control over something in my life B. keeps me from ever filling up my disk space more than halfway (thanks WinDirStat)

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WinDirStat is a godsend, I love it.

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i really want to make it clear that i actually have no issue with cleaniness itself; you can have a setup that is both dense and clean. i'd even argue the two `old' setups i shared pictures of are technically clean, just that there's a lot there.

for my own set-up, i admit there's actually very little on my physical desk, and i keep my icons on my desktop to a minimum. i used to outright disable icons on my desktop, but now i keep a few for aesthetic reasons (it simply felt a touch too clean without it).

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line 692 column 276 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 761 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 761 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 761 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 770 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 775 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 271 column 1307 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 755 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 238 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 264 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 295 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 331 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 360 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 388 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 418 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 449 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 479 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 506 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 534 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 632 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 320 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md