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Posted on 01-22-18 06:22:44 PM Link | Quote
I'm thinking that I should make "banned" and "powerlevel -1" distinct things in some way


Right now:

Powerlevel -1:
- Banned users only
- Prevents all posting and whatnot
- Ignores "minpower 0" (can view anything normal users can)

Guest:
- Treated as power 0
- Can post with a login
- Can view all forums with power 0 or below


I'm thinking of making this into different options; where guests are treated as power -1 for viewing, and forums with a minpower of 0 are no longer visible to guests (or banned users) at all. This would mean the smallest amount of effort to stick it into the forum.

Primarily I would put this forum in the "not visible to guests" group, but other forums (like the trash can?) could go there, and maybe even at some point something like the old Officer's Club/Feels Station.

Of course, a better solution might be to try to implement user groups and permissions, but that's way out there...
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Posted on 01-22-18 06:45:47 PM Link | Quote
I think having forums that guests or search engine bots can't see is something I desire. I'm not too concerned with members here seeing some of my more personal thoughts, but I'm not too found of google and others bullshit data gathering. :I
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Posted on 01-22-18 07:08:02 PM (last edited by Kak at 01-22-18 07:16:58 PM) Link | Quote
that sound like a pretty cool idea; even though in a way having this forum in particular being accessible only by logged in users feels... wrong?

edit: oh welp I saw that other thread now

Originally posted by Xkeeper
A better solution might be to try to implement user groups and permissions, but that's way out there...
Please don't bring back bad memories from last March.
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Posted on 01-22-18 07:20:45 PM Link | Quote
I don't know what you mean by that, Kak. What happened in March?


Also, yeah, some privacy from Goog would be nice, but we don't exactly have a search function, either... ugh.
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Posted on 01-22-18 07:42:25 PM Link | Quote
nah, it's nothing
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Posted on 01-22-18 08:34:19 PM Link | Quote
why can’t our forum have its own search database?

anyway, idk if IT even needs search tbh
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Posted on 01-22-18 11:27:16 PM Link | Quote
I can't really block search on a per-post level unless I disable access; but the deeper question I was thinking about is if I wanted this whole board to be searchable at all, at least for Google and whatever...
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Posted on 01-22-18 11:45:15 PM Link | Quote
Regardless, I think it should have its own search system.
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Posted on 01-23-18 05:54:54 AM Link | Quote
I don't think IT needs to be searchable, yeah. I feel like there's a sorta unspoken assumption that there's a tiny layer of privacy when posting in IT? I dunno. I actually think this forum being only accessible by logged in users feels kinda fitting, anyway...
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Posted on 01-23-18 07:52:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rambly
I don't think IT needs to be searchable, yeah. I feel like there's a sorta unspoken assumption that there's a tiny layer of privacy when posting in IT? I dunno. I actually think this forum being only accessible by logged in users feels kinda fitting, anyway...


I knew that IT was serious times, but that assumption never formed for me, given that it's still a public forum and all, and I don't recall being separately granted access or anything. *shrug*
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Posted on 01-23-18 08:01:14 AM Link | Quote
so if I understand this correctly, this is about is making guests have powerlevel -1, and have banned users a separate option altogether? that could be nice I guess

search system is not that necessary for IT all things considered
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Posted on 01-23-18 03:23:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RanAS
so if I understand this correctly, this is about is making guests have powerlevel -1, and have banned users a separate option altogether? that could be nice I guess

search system is not that necessary for IT all things considered

That is mostly the mechanical way of doing it, but a more fundamental way would be that "guests cannot view forums with a minimum level of 0". (I explained it in too much detail and complicated it beyond what it needed to be; oops.)

The idea would be that we could have forums that were not visible to guests or crawlers, like this one.



search stuff

Eh.
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Posted on 01-24-18 03:05:41 AM Link | Quote
I'm curious: is it possible to set a forum's minlevel to 1? Or would that not affect its visibility to guests?
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Posted on 01-24-18 03:28:24 AM Link | Quote
Yes. Those are called staff forums.
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Posted on 01-24-18 04:44:29 AM Link | Quote
casual reminder that -2 is distinct from -1 and you'll have to change some behavior if you move banned down to -2
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Posted on 01-24-18 12:20:27 PM Link | Quote
I wasn't going to move anything, just add a special restriction for guests. Why do we have a -2, anyway? I know what it is but it doesn't seem useful.
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Posted on 01-24-18 08:49:54 PM Link | Quote
It's shut up a few people that try to PM spam after being banned.
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Posted on 01-25-18 01:24:39 AM Link | Quote
Oh, it actually stops people from using PMs? I guess that's the one major difference, then..
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Posted on 01-25-18 02:39:09 AM Link | Quote
just make banned users unable to send PMs at all, problem solved
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Posted on 01-25-18 07:53:06 AM Link | Quote
that totally doesn't sound like it would cut off comunication between banned users and staff
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