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| Jul - Innocent Town - Have you ever thought about being another gender? |  -  -  |
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| Maybe once or twice |
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| Every now and then |
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| Tons, like, daydreaming about it level |
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14.0%, 8 votes | |
| I AM the other gender |
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devin Yoshi i'm mima irl Level: 112  Posts: 3375/3519 EXP: 14915129 For next: 423076 Since: 04-29-08 Pronouns: any From: FL Since last post: 294 days Last activity: 6 days |
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Originally posted by Xkeeper or if you're like me and just prefer apathy over effort and self-reflection ____________________ Photo by Luc Viatour |
| Xkeeper Level: 263  Posts: 23201/25343 EXP: 296649307 For next: 2311146 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them/???????? Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 15 hours |
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why not both
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Octangula Level: 10 Posts: 17/17 EXP: 3219 For next: 1195 Since: 07-12-16 Pronouns: they/them Since last post: 4.2 years Last activity: 3.5 years |
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Originally posted by Lunaria I firmly believe that transition is not a choice. A friend of mine insists on correcting that to "not a meaningful choice". On reflection, I think we're both right, but in different ways. And yes, it's incredibly fucked up that the so-called "experts" have gathered an entire army of gatekeepers, for the sole purpose of hurting people who feel compelled to make changes in their lives... I don't know if I'm entirely a fan of the egg metaphor either. It feels very... dismissive of the fact that gender feelings are incredibly complicated, and that some people can take years to get to the point where they're ready to other people (or themselves, in some cases) that something needs to change... |
Rambly Level: 106  Posts: 1766/3083 EXP: 12563904 For next: 108039 Since: 07-22-07 Pronouns: she/her Since last post: 267 days Last activity: 251 days |
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Originally posted by Octangula oh, i'm not necessarily that fond of the term "egg" as a term used seriously to describe others, and i'm actually sympathetic to peoples' need to take things at their own pace. i was really strongly in denial, even on-and-off, for many years, and it took me forever to admit to myself "okay, i'm definitely trans, and not doing anything about it is severely impacting my life and my mental health in a really strongly negative way". self-describing as an egg i think is fine, tho, either if you're in a questioning period and just being goofy or you're certain you're trans but you're speaking retrospectively. anyway, yeah. i only made that post because i am at the point in my life where i finally know for certain that i'm a trans woman, and then to be looking back at someone who's so strongly and so obviously in denial is genuinely interesting to me. having the vantage point that i do, knowing everything that was going on in my head at the time makes it really, really obvious, but i'm definitely not saying that everyone who said things like i did is necessarily trans and in denial. ____________________ |
| rakiru Member Level: 12  Posts: 15/31 EXP: 6824 For next: 1097 Since: 01-09-18 Since last post: 4.1 years Last activity: 4.1 years |
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Originally posted by Rambly Yeah, this. It can be like seeing yourself 6 months in the past, and, at least for me, it's sometimes incredibly frustrating thinking back on things in my life that should have made it incredibly obvious, but I was so far in denial (and sometimes just completely lost, since there's really no education on this stuff) that I ignored it, so it can be easy to let those feelings slip over to other people a little. It is of course an incredibly complicated and confusing time, that can only really be handled by the person going through it, so my egg post was mostly in jest, but partly just at previous me. |
Gabu Star Mario Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found Level: 172  Posts: 9747/9981 EXP: 67905098 For next: 197136 Since: 08-10-09 Pronouns: they/them, she/her From: Santa Cruisin' USA Since last post: 44 days Last activity: 5 days |
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a tiny fairy Level: 18  Posts: 47/80 EXP: 28224 For next: 1673 Since: 01-16-18 Pronouns: — Since last post: 4.0 years Last activity: 3.6 years |
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I'm not really sure how to vote here? I pretended I was a girl for a couple years but I don't think I or anybody else seriously believed it. I've ID'd as genderqueer for as long as I knew that word existed, and I can't really point to any part of my life and say there was a meaningful "before".
I'm not trans and I sure as hell ain't cis, gender is a fuck ____________________ |
| Kazinsal Level: 53  Posts: 563/674 EXP: 1121878 For next: 35241 Since: 01-19-11 Pronouns: he/him From: Vancouver, Canada Since last post: 230 days Last activity: 188 days |
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 kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/563I've thought about it a few times. Mostly in the form of "if I woke up one morning and found myself a girl I wouldn't bother trying to reverse that". I have had friends and more in the greater trans community for half my life at this point. I've been to the brink and back with some of them. I guess I know kind of what some of them have felt and it's not some unnatural feeling to me. Gender is a strange thing. Sexuality equally so, if not more. ____________________ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the freeway. kazinsal@araxes> _ |
| BatElite Member Level: 35  Posts: 100/345 EXP: 273618 For next: 6318 Since: 04-24-17 Pronouns: they/them, preferably she/her (fluidity is heck) Since last post: 7 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Yeah, I've been having thoughts on and off. Lately not so much though. When it has come up my reactions have varied from curiosity to indifference, and I'm not really sure what to think about it all. I've not ascribed to much in the way of masculinity or femininity lately anyway. Sorry if I'm being vague, but I feel like I'm going to cause some heads meeting desks repeatedly if I elaborate my thoughts much. Might be my apologetic mood right now. ____________________ "Rusted old machines should stay home and play with their toasters!" |
| a tiny fairy Level: 18 Posts: 55/80 EXP: 28224 For next: 1673 Since: 01-16-18 Pronouns: — Since last post: 4.0 years Last activity: 3.6 years |
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I don't think anyone would mind if you wanted to elaborate, especially here.
Or if you like, my DMs are open on discord. I'd love to chat. ____________________ |
| Xkeeper Level: 263 Posts: 23343/25343 EXP: 296649307 For next: 2311146 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them/???????? Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by BatElite gender is a giant amorphous blob of bullshit and it's totally ok for it to take as long as you need to turn your thoughts into meaningful expressions, or failing that express how difficult it is to ascribe meaning to your feelings. unlike society at large most of us here recognize gender is far more complex than on-off e: there is also no expectation that you must feel a certain way about yourself or have certain outcomes. anything is fine, including not really deciding, or reevaluating how you feel after you think more. ____________________ (Lv 242 with 222094523 EXP) |
| eifie Harassment campaign contributor Level: NaN  Posts: 19/-88 EXP: NaN For next: 0 Since: 02-14-18 From: Rural Indiana Since last post: 4.1 years Last activity: 3.8 years |
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| from the ages of 13-16 i thought very often that i was the wrong gender, often wishing i could be male and experiencing mild gender dysphoria. eventually it faded, i dont really know how or why. i think for me it was just the realization that it was less about gender in the first place, but other forms of dysphoria in general. i still have body dysmorphia but i hardly think twice about gender as it applies to myself anymore. i also noticed that since my girlfriend came to realize she is trans, ive really begun to explore the lesbian side of my sexuality and its rekindled my interest in girly things. it feels really comfortable to present as feminine now, even moreso than it did when we were viewed as a heterosexual couple. |
| BatElite Member Level: 35 Posts: 125/345 EXP: 273618 For next: 6318 Since: 04-24-17 Pronouns: they/them, preferably she/her (fluidity is heck) Since last post: 7 days Last activity: 2 days |
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After letting it be for a bit I wrote some stuff. I suppose currently it's undecided. ____________________ "Rusted old machines should stay home and play with their toasters!" |
| hydra-calm Member Level: 30  Posts: 121/249 EXP: 163689 For next: 2180 Since: 07-21-17 Since last post: 1.3 years Last activity: 1.1 years |
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| Addendum: pretty much every time I read a manga with some kind of crossdressing character I wish I could follow through on this stuff. Still probably not trans; still want to try. Guess I see it more as detachment from the self than anything. |
| marrub Level: 19  Posts: 22/84 EXP: 30299 For next: 5478 Since: 01-23-18 Pronouns: they/them - others are welcome From: colorado (previously hell (aka. ohio)) Since last post: 1.5 years Last activity: 297 days |
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Originally posted by a tiny fairy This I feel immensely. Nobody's ever not confused me for a girl, so I just roll with it. So.. now I just wear girls clothes, because they're more comfortable (literally and figuratively.) I couldn't care less for whatever society might expect from me. I'm just a person, y'know? It makes me sad people feel the need to conform so much that they can't even feel like themselves. Maybe my hippie blood is flowing a bit too hard.  ____________________
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| Xkeeper Level: 263 Posts: 23358/25343 EXP: 296649307 For next: 2311146 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them/???????? Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 15 hours |
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gender is a huge ball of bullshit and the fact it's basically been reduced to "what parts do you have" / "what parts do you want to have" in most cases is p awful
i long for the day we can escape flesh prisons and be a virtual avatar that can look like whatever the fuck we want all of the time, so we can experiment with who we are and who we want to be
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| Xkeeper Level: 263 Posts: 23358/25343 EXP: 296649307 For next: 2311146 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them/???????? Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by Xkeeper not here, mind, i mostly mean in the physical world where half of the population is bigoted assholes ____________________ (Lv 243 with 226396335 EXP) |
| Elemi 370    "ban me or whatever" Okay, bye, please don't push your antivax shit here Level: 42  Posts: 346/379 EXP: 485114 For next: 36248 Since: 06-20-10 Pronouns: She/her From: Hyperspace Since last post: 3.1 years Last activity: 2.3 years |
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Nyanners' Post
I'm now quite happy just saying to people I am a non-conformist in all respects, people should just do the fuck what they want and stop worrying about all the other people who don't believe in progress and that this way might not be THE way.
Used to ID as genderfluid but I think that's not really accurate, more that I just do what I want, act feminine / masculine whenever, but prefer physically looking more on the femme side, I don't really think surgery is something that magically fixes things in the head but some are polar opposite on this opinion, I do employ herbal remedies like PM and Peony. I am happy so many people here have more advanced ideas about how deep this goes into / beyond psychology. I hate labels mind you, just another way to divide and rule. ____________________
Disclaimer: all my posts are fiction.
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| Rambly Level: 106 Posts: 1948/3083 EXP: 12563904 For next: 108039 Since: 07-22-07 Pronouns: she/her Since last post: 267 days Last activity: 251 days |
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i don't necessarily think labels are bad... describing things isn't a bad thing. but there's a difference between a descriptive label and a prescriptive label
the pathway to personal freedom and self-determination does not run through erasure of difference. division doesn't come from labels existing at all, it comes from assholes who further their own interests by artificially stoking flames of division. it comes from people that want power and choose to create hierarchies and exploit them for social capital. it comes from people that come up with extremely narrow definitions of what it means to be x, then police anyone who doesn't fit that definition Originally posted by Xkeeper ugh, i feel that. i wish i'd had that option growing up. i experimented a lot by going into girl mode with a few intimate friends, having those friends gender me and call me girl names, doing stuff with my voice, etc. and while all of that filled me with an irrational joy, i still couldn't convince myself that i actually should go any further. eventually i got the opportunity to get on HRT and i just... took it. and by that i mean my girlfriend pushed me a lot and she basically had to drag me kicking and screaming lol because i was so convinced "well what if i'm just faking it". i didn't know if it'd make me feel worse, or better, but i figured i had to try because nothing was working. but good LORD i'm glad i went. for some reason being on HRT for a while, and having the opportunity to present female IRL, crystallized my convictions that i'm a girl, i'm trans, always have been, etc. i'm way way more confident and self-posessed and just... happier, now. plus i had the experience of missing E for a week and it made me feel horrible -- i didn't realize how horrible i'd felt the 26 years before HRT until i'd been on HRT for a year and then deprived of it some. good lord that made the contrast so super apparent it also helps that i've flat-out rejected the idea that my more stereotypically "boyish" interests or personality traits make me less of a girl. i like geeky things like computers and video games and my typing style isn't SUPER girly, and some of my music taste has been lambasted as "guy music" (i'm getting back into prog rock lately lol) and etc. stuff like that used to make me question whether or not i was even a girl. eventually i realized interests and hobbies have fuck all to do with gender and i should just unapologetically like what i like and everyone else can just deal with it anyways, i hope anyone in this thread who's sincerely questioning finds a pathway to happiness. everyone's pathway is a little different, and it takes experimenting and an open mind and time to figure out what your feelings mean and where they'll lead. i know this is cornball as all hell, but it really is a journey, and nobody but you can tell you what your endpoint is ____________________ |
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