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Posted on 12-31-18 05:45:08 PM Link | Quote
i haven't used mastodon in a long time and i do wanna say a few words on why that i haven't really...said?

twitter sucks. let's get that out of the way. i have a whole website on twitter sucking that i need to whack with a wrench until it's upgraded.

hoWEvER
i feel like too many people take "people actually have real, social interactions and are real there!" as a completely good thing
while yes, this is good, and it doesn't have any downsides for say, people who aren't completely broken socially...

i feel like mastodon makes it really easy to overwhelm yourself trying to get to know everyone
there's a reason why it's so easy to make more friends than your brain can "actually handle" on twitter and facebook

because people aren't always real

when i go on twitter, it's so much easier to just stare at the screen and not really care about anything happening, because nobody's going to have an actual social interaction on twitter
on mastodon, everyone is having social interactions in real time on a scrolling timeline that autoupdates and you have to process every single social connection and interaction and even singular posts are related to other people and there's

i know this sounds weird, but there's too LITTLE noise compared to the signal

it's like being in one of those completely and near-totally sound dampening rooms -- sure, it sounds great to have no outside noise but people regularly freak out in there when they're in there for too long because most brains are meant to have a low level of noise at the least

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Posted on 12-31-18 07:36:36 PM Link | Quote
It's funny -- that wasn't my experience at all, actually. Tended to feel like people went through the same empty rituals to be part of similar groups, no one just did their own thing, etc.
There are some corners where this isn't the case, but for the most part I'm sick of Mastodon and Twitter for similar reasons. I don't want to post from a template or a canon range of topics -- I just want to talk. People don't really do that now -- it's always some kind of status game (often a laughably transparent or empty one).
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Posted on 01-22-19 02:10:28 AM Link | Quote
I see how that could be overwhelming, but I think it's a problem of trying to apply your twitter habits on Mastodon. I love Mastodon, and I love how easy it is to have a real interaction with another person. It's not just screaming into the void, it's talking to a few friends.

You might be trying to follow too many people? It's easy to do, but I think Mastodon really shines when you follow less than 100 people and actually try to get to know them. And when it does get to be too much (And yes, it still does, something something beaming information directly into your brain), it's very easy to just disconnect. Nothing pulls you back, except a conversation that will be waiting when you're ready for it. It's very refreshing.

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Posted on 01-24-19 01:44:39 AM Link | Quote
I actually tend to stick around 30 mutuals. The problem is more complex than that.
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Posted on 01-24-19 12:10:56 PM Link | Quote
Neither Mastodon or Twitter are good alternatives for actual conversation. However, as alternatives for each other, I very much prefer Mastodon, and today I just found another reason for it.

People used to complain about Tumblr being crap at properly tagging NSFW content, then Tumblr decided to go nuclear on all NSFW content.

But then most artists left for Twitter, which is arguably worse than Tumblr. You can "Mark media you Tweet as containing material that may be sensitive". Retweets seem to follow the sensitive media settings of the account that posted it for the most part. Twitter staff can intervene at any point and arbitrarily decide that a specific tweet or even an entire account is NSFW, but you can't apply these settings yourself. If you post mixed content then, leave luck to heaven and pray that everything will just magically work. By the way, Twitter says that if they flag a tweet or an entire account as NSFW, there's no way to reverse it. I don't think they misflagged anything major yet (even though they have only applied this to the worst offenders a.k.a the people who get many reports over it), but the flaw is there anyway and nothing prevents them from doing worse than Tumblr ever did.

I also got surprised when a tweet was (very correctly) marked as sensitive but my retweet wasn't. I think that the original account doesn't actually have that "mark media as sensitive" setting enabled, their tweet got flagged manually by staff, which means it gets marked as NSFW, but then retweets don't get auto-flagged because ???. There's a lot of arbitrarity going on and it just keeps me from using it that much more.

Overall it's too goddamn chaotic.

I guess one problem is the algorithms though. When you just follow a small amount of people, you can deal with things being ordered correctly, but once that number gets too high then it also subverts to chaos because nothing gets filtered and everything is constantly in your timeline. Just like on Twitter, you'd probably need multiple accounts on Mastodon as well and you'd need another web client for it. Twitter has Tweetdeck, and Mastodon also has many other ones that have support of multiple accounts, just search for it. I'm not linking any particular one here because I haven't actually tried one yet, but I probably will in the near future.

That's the great part, since it's open source, you aren't restricted to just what the software is initially bundled with.

Most of the issues that Mastodon currently has are issues that can eventually be solved without the entire federation falling apart, despite the constant flack that Eugen gets. It would help if he added "optional features" to Mastodon, as in, stuff you can choose to install or choose to enable when running your server even though it's not necessary. That would simplify custom features added to each server. Kinda like a plug-in system I guess.

Some people also have the concern that "if an instance falls down, all content is lost", which is a good concern to have, though not entirely specific to Mastodon. Twitter also has the same thing, it could go to crap at any moment, and in there you don't have another instance to run to, it ran for many years at a net loss and only just recently got profits for their work, and once ads and tracking become less profitable for them, either due to user outrage or due to their own mistakes, it could fall down again too.

This could be remedied by having a backup instance just in case your main one falls, or to have a simple generic static website where people can go to when they want to find where else you are on the Internet, or by choosing a more stable one with a few years of runtime, or to make sure the instance you join is has proper financial support to it, or to manually run one. I dunno, there are ways to do it.

I don't think it's going to become that popular yet unfortunately, but Twitter is walking a tightrope here. If it screws up as badly as Tumblr did (or worse), then it's almost surely Game Over for them, but until then I guess the fact that "everyone on already on Twitter" and "it's easier to sign up and use and understand than Mastodon" is the winning argument for the majority of people.

how the hell did this become a wall of text with 10+ paragraphs what

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Posted on 02-01-19 09:03:36 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RanAS
how the hell did this become a wall of text with 10+ paragraphs what


Imagine what this would've had to look like had you posted it on either of the platforms you were talking about! >..>

(Unless you're on dragon.style or something.)



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Posted on 03-05-19 08:21:09 AM Link | Quote

After a bout of ~stuff~ happening I'm reminded that some of my friends don't really want anything to do with the larger fediverse anymore, and I'm wondering if they'd enjoy it here better.

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Okay I wrote that before going to bed and someone made her own forum instead, fair enough.

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Posted on 09-27-20 01:21:50 AM Link | Quote

seems like mastodon (and the fediverse as a whole) has developed it's own culture on top of the usual social media stuff, especially in the way they deal with (or don't deal with) certain users on there.

i've seen a few people leave and i can't say i really blame them. i still find it much better than twitter or any other social media i've used, but it's still social media. i've tried to just stick to my own corner and make friends without seeing most of the noise, which sort of works.

there's also the issue of it not being truly decentralized by design, since users are encouraged to boost and follow users on other instances. at least with irc you could create a channel on a large network and never have to interact outside of that channel.

i'd still recommend mastodon as a twitter alternative, or somewhere where you could be more open without worrying about exposing yourself to certain groups or generally avoid the algorithms and noise most social media sites have, but my view on it has changed since i joined about 2 years ago. i guess social media will always be social media, and i don't think there's a one size fits all solution for online communication.

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Posted on 09-28-20 06:54:20 AM Link | Quote
have an account, never use it. no paragraph needed
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Posted on 09-28-20 07:41:32 AM (last edited by Rusty at 09-28-20 07:46:51 AM) Link | Quote
Even with all the stupid drama on the fediverse lately, I can't say I see the logic in a bunch of people moving exclusively back to Twitter, the platform that openly harbors fascists and almost certainly has one at the helm, amongst other things? The platform that has no concept of "content warnings", and will happily drop NSFW artwork in your face if you're on the "Home" timeline, because someone you're following liked (not retweeted) it? The platform that is loaded with ads, constantly shoves clickbait headlines in your face, and gives you either limited or no control over either of these? Why not work to improve the fediverse, instead of just ditching it in favor of the much worse corporate alternative? I just don't understand.

Anyway, uh, I have a couple of accounts:

RustyRetro (non-binary mode)
RachelRox (girl mode)

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Posted on 09-28-20 11:52:34 AM Link | Quote
I'm probably going to try self-hosting a Pleroma server later this year.
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Posted on 09-30-20 06:38:02 AM Link | Quote
Roxie
im basically just too mentally burnt out to try and establish a new presence on a new flavor of this particular variety of social media
i would rather like, wind down my entire twitter presence slowly but surely til its pretty much solely an art sharing and consumption space
and have my social self basically exist solely in discord and maybe a little bit of telegram
"twitter but its tinier and more haphazard and none of the artists i like are there" doesnt particularly appeal to me
this may be pessimistic but i really do think the only way to win against the "critical mass" that is social media in 2020 is to just not engage with it at all

(the fact that places like the fediverse that try to be "twitter but more pleasant" feel empty and uninteresting without the addictiveness factor of ~social engagement~ as a carrot-on-a-stick to encourage you to use it feels like an indictment of social media at large and an indication that it probably all needs to be torn down)

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Posted on 10-03-20 10:27:00 AM Link | Quote
I can't afford to maintain a Mastodon presence anymore because of time constraints...maybe one day I will go back to using it but I'll probably be fairly inactive.

Discord has been my main communication platform recently, and even then I'm only in a few very specific communities (such as this one).

It would be nice to be able to ditch Twitter completely because I never participate there except for maybe browsing or liking a few things, but I think I'll be fine with keeping my Twitter account around simply for convenience's sake in case I ever need to use it.

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Posted on 10-09-20 11:43:06 AM Link | Quote
i can't get myself to care about Mastodon too much -- obviously none of my friends are there, that's bad, but also i really do think that the issue with social media, particularly microblogging platforms like twitter, is the platform itself... it's just a shit format for anything substantial. deviantART and even Tumblr were better for sharing art, forums are better for genuine good-faith discussion (i will die on this hill), Discord and IRC are better for catching up with friends. twitter i guess is good if you want all of this stuff in one place, but in the era of individualized smartphone apps it all seems anachronistic and poorly thought out but nobody's really caught on yet, like Twitter's feeds were developed for the early iPhone/BlackBerry days of SMS messages and data caps and has duped us all into thinking it's still essential because it's designed to be addictive at its core.

personally, i was never even that big on MySpace or Facebook either. i just plain don't like social media; i don't think it's very communitarian or healthy. even when you're surrounded by peoples' noise, you end up not being all that close to the actual people. and i don't think Mastodon is going to solve that. i might care more about it as a superior option to twitter if everyone i knew was on it, but again, i think the reason it's hard to get people to switch is because it's only very superficially a better option.

that said, i have a Mastodon -- rambly@kafuka.me, i guess. i'm not too attached to the domain and i might move elsewhere on the fediverse, i dunno. i'm super skeptical of the idea of federation anyway, i think it's an idea that sounds good and travels well but leads to its own weird problems and doesn't solve the core, core problems of social media. like of course Twitter doesn't have content warnings. the whole point of social media is to get you to see Everything, even if you don't want to. of course Twitter harbors fascists, it drives engagement and makes the site that much more addicting. it's brain poison.

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Posted on 10-09-20 12:00:17 PM Link | Quote


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ngh i think we just need a jul instance?

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Posted on 10-09-20 12:02:12 PM Link | Quote
we already have a site for jul's users to socialize, at http://jul.rustedlogic.net/

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Originally posted by Rambly
we already have a site for jul's users to socialize, at http://jul.rustedlogic.net/

true but mastodon would be for jul's user to socialize with the wider mastodon network. opt-in

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Posted on 10-09-20 12:22:28 PM Link | Quote
I feel like that notion is flawed in some ways. Jul already exists for socializing on Jul, and we have a IRC/Discord for chatting.

I see no reason why Jul users who want to also hang out on mastodon couldn't just join an pre-existing instance and just chat. Making a Jul instance won't suddenly make most Jul users want to be on it, and it might actually have a detrimental effect to the activity in chat/forum. That is to say, it might have splintering effects.

And even if not, seems like a lot of work for not much reward to me? IDK

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Posted on 10-09-20 12:37:17 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lunaria
Making a Jul instance won't suddenly make most Jul users want to be on it, and it might actually have a detrimental effect to the activity in chat/forum. That is to say, it might have splintering effects.
i agree with this and i'd been looking for a way to word it. i've been really enjoying the activity in the discord lately, and i'd be terrified to lose that.

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Posted on 10-09-20 12:42:31 PM Link | Quote

the only advantages i see would be that people here would not have to worry about finding an instance (i chose mine based on this thread) and not have to worry about the instance they're on being suspended or defederated because of whatever drama is going on that week, but i agree. i think we should focus on socializing here (and irc/discord, but chatrooms are different), and leave mastodon to those who want to join it anyway

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line 676 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
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line 678 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
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line 697 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 699 column 74 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 699 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 699 column 613 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 699 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
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line 722 column 943 - Warning: discarding unexpected </div>
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line 725 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
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line 748 column 74 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 748 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 756 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
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line 779 column 74 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 779 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 782 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
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line 803 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 810 column 17 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 810 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected <table>
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line 813 column 128 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 813 column 161 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 813 column 194 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 813 column 227 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 813 column 262 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 813 column 295 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 813 column 328 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
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line 813 column 363 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
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line 815 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 816 column 37 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&id"
line 815 column 177 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
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line 817 column 28 - Warning: discarding unexpected </form>
line 817 column 35 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 817 column 43 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 817 column 53 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noscript>
line 817 column 64 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 817 column 74 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 817 column 82 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 817 column 90 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
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line 840 column 57 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 818 column 1 - Warning: missing </center>
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line 125 column 93 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 606 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 606 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 606 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 606 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 680 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 680 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 680 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 680 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 806 column 1604 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 816 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 816 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 816 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 825 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 830 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 18 - Warning: trimming empty <b>
line 710 column 18 - Warning: trimming empty <b>
line 810 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 222 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 249 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 279 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 305 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 353 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 381 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 414 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 448 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 474 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 505 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 531 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 563 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 593 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 623 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 671 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 697 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 746 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 777 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 803 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 352 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
Lobby your company to join the W3C: http://www.w3.org/Consortium

Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md