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Posted on 08-02-18 09:47:11 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Reimu
Mine can be terrible when it disconnects me for no apparent reason, especially when it's humid outside after a thunderstorm. Spectrum internet must be weak to humidity or something.

Yeah, all the wireless stuff is super sensitive to that kind of thing. Very frustrating and annoying, but usually used when fixed-cable options are either not possible or prohibitively expensive.

My internet speed hasn't changed. No point me posting a new screenshot. But Australian ISPs were forced to stop advertising theoretical speeds now. So, if you have a 100/40 Mbps connection they have to advertise what it will actually get during typical peak times with everyone on the network fucking up the inadequate backhaul.

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Posted on 08-04-18 02:48:21 AM Link | Quote
I'm not sure if it's my ISP doing it or if Google is doing weird stuff, but for the past few weeks, my YouTube connection has been awful. I'll randomly get like 200 Kbps connections on YouTube videos while everything else works at perfectly normal speed. It's really annoying because there seems to be no rhyme or reason for it.

Otherwise, I get this:


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Posted on 08-04-18 03:27:11 AM (last edited by Xkeeper at 09-28-18 05:26:54 PM) Link | Quote


i dont know what happened but it did boost my download speed. i dont know if this is a night thing, since i tried downloading a game from steam this morning and only got like 200kbps.

EDIT (8/4/2018): the internet was down this whole morning, fun stuff!!

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Posted on 09-26-18 08:49:13 AM Link | Quote
Julbench3.1  94% full, 55K free, 824K in use
Having some sort of outage.



Fun stuff.

That said, I really appreciate how lightweight Jul/Acmlmboard is - it's actually still usable while Twitter and co. are a chore right now.


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Posted on 09-28-18 05:28:02 PM Link | Quote
It was usually really good, but lately we've been having constant outages at home, often around late nights past 10 PM. It's been bad enough that our data usage over cellular is over 4.5 GB, and we're still not done with the month yet

I really need to call our ISP since this started with a particularly bad one a few days ago, but of course the main time they're available is also when I'm stuck at work

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Posted on 09-28-18 08:12:53 PM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/613

I just had to DM my ISP on Twitter about a BGP issue.

They solved it.

Worth the $120/month I think.

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Posted on 09-29-18 04:26:21 AM Link | Quote


comcast just deciding to do whatever the fuck they want with any page you view is really something

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Posted on 09-29-18 02:15:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dprotp
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comcast just deciding to do whatever the fuck they want with any page you view is really something


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Posted on 10-02-18 01:43:09 PM Link | Quote
my mobile provider is... amusing, to say the least.


* separate data caps! 100GB, but only in 4G mode. under other modes, it's 3GB. (under normal usage, I don't reach the 100GB cap, but the 3GB one is quickly reached)

* when the data cap is reached, speed is throttled. (which means, below 56K speed. not even kidding)

* their coverage is incomplete, which they compensate by borrowing another operator's network. they don't seem to support 4G through that other network.

* when my phone switches to 3G, it typically means it switched to the other network, and will not switch back to the 'proper' network until the connection is reset (toggling airplane mode).


tldr proper speeds only exist in 4G mode so I need to check for it

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Posted on 11-17-18 05:18:12 AM Link | Quote
update:

remember in my original post i said i used to get 30mbps on typical nights?


yeah that's over now. this is as good as it gets lately

i can't wait to test this when i visit my parents and it's better bc not comcast

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Posted on 11-17-18 05:44:29 AM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/621

Comcast broke one of their Newark edge routers connecting to an IX in France a few nights ago. 15-20% packet loss for anyone on Comcast accessing datacenters in Paris. They didn't fix it for close to a day and a half.

As someone who helps maintain a game server in Paris with ~1000 daily users worldwide I have to say fuck Comcast

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Posted on 11-17-18 06:12:52 AM Link | Quote
As someone who doesn't even use Comcast fuck em anyway

All US ISPs are shit, and so are UK ones (but not as bad IMO)

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Posted on 11-17-18 06:48:43 AM Link | Quote
In France, I guess we are in a better situation than in the US. I mean, I still have to find worse ISPs than US ones. Here is the story of French ISPs:

On the beginning, there was Wanadoo. Launched by France Télécom, the public telephone service, it was a public ISP and was the leader at the time. My parents got a 512K modem then switched to ADSL later. There were a few other private providers; Neuf Telecom, Club Internet, Alice, etc.

Later, when the government decided that every public service should be made private, they made France Telecom go private. It merged with Wanadoo under the name "Orange". That's when it goes bad. Orange has been quite a lot on the news a few years ago due to a very high suicide rate with their workers. Those who left letters behind them said it was their manager's fault, and that's when everyone discovered Orange's horrible management and working conditions - from what I understand of how US workers are treated, this would be normal working conditions in the US, here it's illegal and immoral.

Other private ISPs moved around as well but there are now 4 major ISPs that have their own networks: Orange, SFR (they bought Neuf Telecom), Bouygues Telecom, and Numericable. The Competition Authority, a French institution to prevent monopoly, tried to prevent SFR from buying Numericable for a few years, but they later allowed it. Now we have only three.

Orange has full coverage on the country since it previously was a public service. Their services are okay, but the prices are extreme. Again, with US ISPs, this would be the usual prices.
I did not hear much of SFR, only that their routers (because in France you cannot have your own router) are shitty.
Bouygues has reasonable prices and provides good speeds.

But everything changed when optical fiber arrived. Our governement is giving funds to help setting up optical fiber everywhere. Before, you would get the fastest speeds in the biggest cities, and you would loose coverage or get 56K stuff in villages. When optical fiber arrived, they decided to start with the villages. So now in the least populated areas, there always is fiber, but there is still many zones without mobile phone coverage. In big cities, with a bit of luck, you can have fiber. In the middle, you pay for 8 Mbps and get 1.

Also, since every french ISP has high prices, they all created some "teenager" versions of their services. Orange has Sosh for example. Sosh provides the same things as Orange but half the price, there is literally no difference. All you have to do is wait for the next special offer and you will get pretty cheap services; my phone subscription costs me €3 per month for 20GB in 4G with Bouygues, and my home line is €15 per month. I can go up to 35 megabytes per second using it which is the greatest speed you can achieve in my city.

TL;DR go for the low tier ISPs in France if you know you can have fiber and 4G coverage where you are; half the price and great speeds. If you can't have fiber, you will not avoid bad prices and instable connections.

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Posted on 11-19-18 11:28:37 AM Link | Quote
My father's place has really bad internet. No ISPs want to cover this area, only mobile internet is available. And mobile internet over here is as reliable as...well, just look:

Download: 0.01 Mbps
Upload: 0.00 Mbps
Latency: 204ms
Jitter: 102ms
Packet Loss: 0%
Network Type: 3G
Signal Strength: -113dBm
Provider: TELEFÔNICA BRASIL S.A


Most speed tests won't load, and the ones that do load have a hard time establishing a connection. I would have posted an image but Imgur also won't load.

how am I even able to connect to Jul is beyond me

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Posted on 11-19-18 02:29:48 PM Link | Quote


That was just now, remoting in via VNC from the office, which is about right. And during the non-summer months, it tends to operate just fine which, at this speed, is quite a far cry from the average of this state (which isn't even 10Mbit, last I checked).

It also costs 90 dollars a month and when it's in the summer months the connectivity drops to absolute shit. I'm hard pressed to keep it stable between late May and late September. I have a feeling it's the back end and this city being heated up from people being home from school with nothing better to do on top of the back end being strained from the summer heat around here (which can get to 110F+ without considering the heat index). Any other time? Fine.

Can run a web/file server and can stream from time to time but not much more than that, though. Even with the throughput, it acts funny if you try to access too many ports at once, router regardless. Or at least, I've tried a lot to see what I can do on it before the router inevitably powers off by itself and recycles the upstream/downstream.

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Posted on 11-20-18 06:35:50 PM Link | Quote


hey it's better than comcast, what a shocker

(not as good as when i lived in columbia, but still pretty solid)

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Posted on 11-22-18 10:41:02 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RanAS
Download: 0.01 Mbps


dialup would get you 0.05 on a good day

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Posted on 11-23-18 02:11:37 AM Link | Quote
While I'd like fewer DNS server errors, essentially unlimited bandwidth makes up for it.
Never noticed a cap anyhow.
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Posted on 11-24-18 07:40:54 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RanAS
My father's place has really bad internet. No ISPs want to cover this area, only mobile internet is available. And mobile internet over here is as reliable as...well, just look:

Download: 0.01 Mbps
Upload: 0.00 Mbps
Latency: 204ms
Jitter: 102ms
Packet Loss: 0%
Network Type: 3G
Signal Strength: -113dBm
Provider: TELEFÔNICA BRASIL S.A


Most speed tests won't load, and the ones that do load have a hard time establishing a connection. I would have posted an image but Imgur also won't load.

how am I even able to connect to Jul is beyond me

Acmlmboard was built when dialup was prevailent and we actually care about slow connections that is why

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Posted on 12-31-18 05:38:44 PM Link | Quote

for the record this is with a 6 year old laptop over wifi
so i think all things considered, uh


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line 180 column 1681 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 253 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 310 column 1226 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 624 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 807 column 329 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 817 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 817 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 826 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 831 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 208 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 811 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 206 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 213 column 1037 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 240 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 270 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 308 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 336 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 370 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 372 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 398 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 428 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 466 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 499 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 531 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 559 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 601 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 641 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 673 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 703 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 731 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 758 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 802 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 374 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md