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Posted on 04-28-16 08:45:17 PM

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I feel like people boast their 50Mbps or 100Mbps connection as if it was a perfectly normal thing, and France is way behind in that regard.

Living in a shitty place doesn't help. Shit Telecom theoretically provides 2Mbps, the actual speed depends on their mood. Generally it's acceptable, but it can be really terrible (as in, Youtube switches to 144p and even then it gets buffering pauses).

But that's not the best part. The best part is their epic stability. Who thinks that random 3-5 minute disconnects are acceptable? Apparently, they think so.

I don't really get it, either. Even something like my phone's internet is perfectly stable if given a reasonable signal (and 20Mbps if given a 4G signal).

Eh. I will move to a better place this summer, hopefully getting me a better connection

How about you guys?

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Posted on 04-28-16 09:02:48 PM

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As I mentioned quite some times in the past, I consider the connection I have pretty slow.

I mean, even though it's still better than some years ago, what I have today is still not exactly wonderful. It's still stable (except in some random days when it promptly drops around mid-day for whatever reason) unlike the phone, which is atrociously bad and is never stable. ugh

While I'm now amazed there is even worse out here (Italy is a place with very bad connection speed in general), that doesn't excuse in any way what Telecom offers here .

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Posted on 04-28-16 09:29:38 PM

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still better than mine, eh

regarding the phone, I need to try it again since I changed providers, maybe it's more or less stable/fast (and maybe it doesn't go through the same kind of proxy that completely defeats the purpose of caching)

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Posted on 04-28-16 10:13:23 PM

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Originally posted by StapleButter
ISP theoretically provides 2Mbps, the actual speed depends on their mood. Generally it's acceptable, but it can be really terrible (as in, Youtube switches to 144p and even then it gets buffering pauses).

But that's not the best part. The best part is their epic stability. Who thinks that random 3-5 minute disconnects are acceptable? Apparently, they think so.

This is literally my connection, regular disconnects and all.

Except, my ISP knows about the problem and can't do anything about it because the monopoly telco is refusing to fix the problem.

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Posted on 04-28-16 10:15:36 PM

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probably the same thing here, considering we have another line from another ISP and it's not really better (except a top speed of 5Mbps)

our primary ISP (Shit Telecom) also owns the phone lines and all that

they have also tried to abuse their ownership of telephone poles to cockblock fiber operators, but eventually that was resolved and fiber is getting installed... it's not happening anytime soon though seeing how it's going

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Posted on 04-28-16 10:49:12 PM

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Things could be better.

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Posted on 04-29-16 01:54:53 AM

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My WiFi is spotty as fuck and will disconnect if I download large files. Bright House is shit.

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Posted on 04-29-16 02:06:28 AM

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not bad.

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Posted on 04-29-16 11:52:27 AM

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I measured my phone's connection (with a good 4G signal) and got 35Mbps down, 17Mbps up; that's a fairly big upload speed

haven't had a chance to test stability yet, though

dad asked for fiber, but seeing the rate at which it's going (and how professional the fiber company is, apparently sending emails that contradict eachother...), I probably won't get to enjoy it before I move out

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Posted on 04-29-16 01:57:56 PM (last edited by RanAS at 04-29-16 02:06:15 PM)

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(I was going to post this 6 hours ago, but I had to "fix" a motherboard issue, yay crappy computers)

My ISP is bad, but I never saw it as too terrible (even though it is according to the majory of people). The connection is mostly stable at least. Apparently there is also a download/upload limit I guess? But I never really noticed it. I can watch, or rather, could watch YouTube videos up to 480p without a problem, but now that we have Netflix instead of cable TV (too costly), nope.

We were planning on upgrading it to 2Mbps soon-ish, barely changes the price.

Haven't tested mobile, but it isn't very stable here either way (using any of the five providers).

There was also a monopoly over here, like +5 years ago, from a company called Telefonica which also owned all of the phone lines (they still do, but they now have another brand name and also aren't as bad as before). It was very common for the internet to be unstable. They provided dial-up (what we used) and "Speedy", which was 1Mbps for a very high price (or 2Mbps for an even higher price).

EDIT: Ignore that it says "Embratel", my ISP is actually NET "Virtua" (the companies merged).

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Posted on 04-29-16 02:06:31 PM

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And I thought Shit Telecom was bad... dial-up in 2010 is fucking terrible. That's a good example why monopoly is a bad thing.

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Posted on 04-29-16 06:00:59 PM

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                            >>ESTABLISHING LINK...DONE.    >>FETCHING POST DATA...DONE.    >>EXECUTING POSTDISP.BIN...

Seeing some of the Speedtest results in here, I think I'm thankful for what I have right now:

It's not great, but also not that terrible; the <=1Mbps upload speed is the worst part, really. I could switch to some other ISP or even just a different plan with my current one, but then the question would be what specific terms other plans have (ex. transfer and/or speed limits). This one's internet access is an unlimited flat rate, with landline telephony having alright prices per minute, and I'm not really using the phone much anyway.

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Posted on 04-29-16 09:53:50 PM

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#63

(this)

It's nice and stable, but also a bit expensive (+$30/month for unlimited bandwidth, for a total of $105 + taxes) ... the basic cheap plan is 5/1 and 20GB/month

But after going through 2 years of cheap shared 8/1 (in 2010-2012) and 2 weeks of 5/0.6 (after a move in 2014), it's worth the price

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Posted on 04-29-16 10:11:16 PM

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I don't really feel I have the right to complain about much...

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                                                I should note that I frequently mistype Comcast as Cocmast, so I legitimately wonder if there's some subconscious stuff going on around that little quirk of mine.

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Posted on 04-30-16 12:07:36 PM

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It's currently thunderstorming and the connection is being sillier than normal, but this is what I have to put up with on an average day since the copper failed and the Telco wouldn't replace it.

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Posted on 04-30-16 03:49:43 PM

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Better than my older house, 1mb/s.

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Posted on 05-04-16 11:54:33 AM

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last time I had measured the speed at univ, I had ~45Mbps down, although that was with ethernet hijacked on my laptop...

I tested it on one of their computers, and man, they have fucking gigabit

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Posted on 05-04-16 10:28:50 PM

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The internet here isn't that bad, despite occasional complaints. It's mostly just that the router we have likes acting up

I don't have a speed result, but it's pretty comparable to most of the stuff here. Certainly sufficient for streaming...

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This was shared between three people who watch streams and/or play online video games. If it were just for me, a quarter of this would more than enough.

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line 458 column 1416 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 501 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 501 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 501 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 501 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 501 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 532 column 1597 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 560 column 1603 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 588 column 1184 - Warning: <font> attribute "size" has invalid value "+0,5"
line 588 column 1205 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 590 column 1334 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 728 column 1104 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 728 column 1104 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 188 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 737 column 231 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 737 column 231 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 737 column 274 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 737 column 274 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 317 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 360 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 756 column 1063 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 766 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 766 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 775 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 780 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 591 column 1441 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 760 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 216 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 246 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 275 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 307 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 338 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 364 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 391 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 419 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 451 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 492 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 518 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 552 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 586 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 615 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 617 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 641 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 669 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 697 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 726 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 754 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 392 warnings and 0 errors!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md