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Posted on 03-25-14 10:49:38 PM (last edited by Yoshimaster96 at 03-28-14 11:01:34 AM) Link | Quote
I know I originally posted this in the screenshots/videos thread, but I thought I'd give it its own thread. Also, I'll explain in more detail.
This is my first attempt, where I found out that the collision wasn't quite right. I later found that the collision was in a separate file:


This is my attempt at vertex shading. Stages such as Master 2 use this:

This is my custom texture test. You can tell what it's a picture of:

I tried SMB2, the files were exactly the same:


I later edited the lz file (which is compressed). My first attempts crashed the game, but later attempts I placed some objects.

Note that none of these have the correct collision, or in the case of the last one, has no collision at all. And there you have it. Me hacking Super Monkey Ball!

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Posted on 03-29-14 02:04:41 AM Link | Quote
I wonder, how did you managed to import models and texture hacks? I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2

And yeah, sucks about the collision being in a separate file. So close to making custom stages

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Posted on 03-29-14 11:53:52 AM Link | Quote
I wonder, how did you managed to import models and texture hacks? I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2


Editing the gma and tpl files. Gma contains the geometry, tpl contains the textures.

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Posted on 03-29-14 06:11:49 PM (last edited by gridatttack at 03-29-14 06:45:48 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Yoshimaster96
I wonder, how did you managed to import models and texture hacks? I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2


Editing the gma and tpl files. Gma contains the geometry, tpl contains the textures.


I know, but how did you edit/make the .tpl files? O.o
IIRC they are .tpls that have multiple images. I tried ripping the graphics once, but the .tpl extractor gave errors since it was a multiple image per file.

Also I wonder if its possible to replace the music and make .dsp files.

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Posted on 03-29-14 07:39:31 PM (last edited by Yoshimaster96 at 03-29-14 07:40:46 PM) Link | Quote
I wonder, how did you managed to import models and texture hacks? I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2
Editing the gma and tpl files. Gma contains the geometry, tpl contains the textures.
I know, but how did you edit/make the .tpl files? O.o
IIRC they are .tpls that have multiple images. I tried ripping the graphics once, but the .tpl extractor gave errors since it was a multiple image per file.

Also I wonder if its possible to replace the music and make .dsp files.

I first had to decode the tpl format before I could replace them.

As for music, I haven't tried that.

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Posted on 03-29-14 08:40:06 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Yoshimaster96
I wonder, how did you managed to import models and texture hacks? I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2
Editing the gma and tpl files. Gma contains the geometry, tpl contains the textures.
I know, but how did you edit/make the .tpl files? O.o
IIRC they are .tpls that have multiple images. I tried ripping the graphics once, but the .tpl extractor gave errors since it was a multiple image per file.

Also I wonder if its possible to replace the music and make .dsp files.

I first had to decode the tpl format before I could replace them.

As for music, I haven't tried that.


Oh so theres no sort of program that helps in editing...
I wonder, is it hard to decode/replace the textures? O.o
As I said, it would be cool to make a texture hack of SMB2 ^^

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Posted on 03-30-14 12:17:03 AM (last edited by Yoshimaster96 at 04-02-14 09:37:39 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by gridatttack
Originally posted by Yoshimaster96
I wonder, how did you managed to import models and texture hacks? I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2
Editing the gma and tpl files. Gma contains the geometry, tpl contains the textures.
I know, but how did you edit/make the .tpl files? O.o
IIRC they are .tpls that have multiple images. I tried ripping the graphics once, but the .tpl extractor gave errors since it was a multiple image per file.

Also I wonder if its possible to replace the music and make .dsp files.

I first had to decode the tpl format before I could replace them.

As for music, I haven't tried that.


Oh so theres no sort of program that helps in editing...
I wonder, is it hard to decode/replace the textures? O.o
As I said, it would be cool to make a texture hack of SMB2 ^^


Well, if you have heard of GXGMA, it is open source. That helped me a lot. Plus the tpl format is well documented, being used in Mario Kart Wii.

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Posted on 04-04-14 08:31:26 PM (last edited by Yoshimaster96 at 04-05-14 12:33:21 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by gridatttack
I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2

Will this help you out?

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Posted on 04-05-14 02:01:54 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Yoshimaster96
Originally posted by gridatttack
I would love to do a texture hack of SMB2

Will this help you out?


Wow thats really cool!
Thanks! Will try it ASAP!

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Posted on 04-05-14 02:19:23 PM (last edited by Yoshimaster96 at 04-21-14 06:08:32 PM) Link | Quote
Also, after I put this together, I realized that wimgt.exe does not support multiple images. Sorry about that.

Maybe SZS Modifier could help?

Test level collision (if anyone wants to help), stage is 10x10 units:
-5
0
-5
0
1
0
C0010000
C0010000
10
0
10
10
-1
0
0.71
-0.71

-5
0
-5
0
1
0
C0010000
E0010000
14.14
0
14.14
14.14
-0.71
-0.71
0.71
-0.71

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Posted on 04-09-14 08:05:14 PM Link | Quote
Also after the list I gave, there are 256 iterations of 0x00000001FFFF, I'd assume this is the trajectory, as they are all the same, but as for the format, I will have to investigate a level with moving objects.

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Posted on 04-14-14 07:21:27 PM Link | Quote
Here is the gma and tpl docs if anyone is interested.

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Posted on 05-22-14 09:36:02 PM Link | Quote
Here is version 0.1 of the level viewer (soon to be editor). You will need this DLL.

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Posted on 05-26-14 03:59:21 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Yoshimaster96
Here is version 0.1 of the level viewer (soon to be editor). You will need this DLL.


Awesome, will check it out

Is there any possibility we could be able to export .gma models to .obj and such? (like in gxgma?)


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Posted on 05-31-14 10:26:34 PM Link | Quote
Sorry, but there is no way to do that. But soon you will be able to edit levels, which GXGMA cannot.

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Posted on 06-04-14 04:55:13 AM (last edited by gridatttack at 06-04-14 04:55:48 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Yoshimaster96
Sorry, but there is no way to do that. But soon you will be able to edit levels, which GXGMA cannot.

Oh well. I asked becase some .tpl in the .gma files of super monkey ball cant be opened by GXGMA
(and they are some .gma files from SMB2 that GXMA cant even open...)

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Posted on 06-08-14 11:58:07 PM Link | Quote
Here is a screenshot of the original program (rendering AD19):

And here is a screenshot of the new program (same level):

As you can see, the texture rendering is glitched at the moment, but my program will render them accurately soon. Specifically, it is the compressed textures that are giving me problems.

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Posted on 06-28-14 01:32:23 PM Link | Quote
Updated GMA/TPL specification can be found here.

IN NEED OF RECRUITS!
The following will be marked if taken:

Sketchup GMA/TPL exporter plugin
Blender GMA/TPL exporter plugin
LZ decoding/tying up loose ends (collision and moving platforms, SMB2)

PM me for any further questions.

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Posted on 07-08-14 06:42:23 PM (last edited by Yoshimaster96 at 07-26-14 07:16:34 PM) Link | Quote
I found that there are encryption values involved, that are in float. They are the first 4 values in the following list:

-6.05
-6.05
0.76
0.76

-5
0
-5
0
1
0
-2.01
-2.01
10
0
10
10
-1
0
0.71
-0.71

-5
0
-5
0
1
0
-2.01
-37181718523570814976
14.14
0
14.14
14.14
-0.71
-0.71
0.71
-0.71

Again, the level is 10x10 units, centered at the origin.

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Posted on 07-26-14 07:19:08 PM Link | Quote
Also, these hex values may be of use, if it is bitwise encryption:

C0C1999A
C0C1999A
3F41999A
3F41999A

C0A00000
00000000
C0A00000
00000000
3F800000
00000000
C0010000
C0010000
41200000
B58637BD
41200001
411FFFFF
BF800000
00000000
3F3504F7
BF3504F7

C0A00000
00000000
C0A00000
00000000
3F800000
00000000
C0010000
E0010000
4162462F
B58637BD
40E24630
40E2462E
BF3504F7
BF3504F7
3F3504F7
BF3504F7

Also, this site may be useful.

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line 969 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 333 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md