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Posted on 12-04-13 05:19:20 AM Link | Quote
Welp, I should change fonts. To tell the truth, the reason my posts use Fixedsys is that the "notepad" class originally used in the old layout with that font. The normal body didn't have any special font.

When I built my current layout, "notepad" became the body, but the fonts didn't change. It looks unnatural, but I like it this way. May really get replaced with Terminal this time however

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Posted on 12-10-13 02:55:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kak64
Welp, I should change fonts. To tell the truth, the reason my posts use Fixedsys is that the "notepad" class originally used in the old layout with that font. The normal body didn't have any special font.

When I built my current layout, "notepad" became the body, but the fonts didn't change. It looks unnatural, but I like it this way. May really get replaced with Terminal this time however

Just for your information, I (and probably anyone else who uses other OSes other than Windows) see your posts in Times New Roman, not Fixedsys. You should probably consider using webfonts for non-web safe fonts. There's a few tools out there to help you with that: FontSquirrel webfont generator (personally tested); font-face generator @ everythingfonts.

As for me? I love chunky or light display typefaces, some ornate display fonts as well. For specific ones, I suppose the old standard Helvetica Neue (or similar fonts like Akzidenz Grotesk, Frutiger Sans) [sans], Gotham [sans], Miso [sans!!], Homestead [slab], Chunk Five [slab], Lavanderia [script], Carton [slab], and probably for symbols, Erler Dingbats and Entypo.

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Posted on 12-10-13 03:39:02 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BlackRose
Just for your information, I (and probably anyone else who uses other OSes other than Windows) see your posts in Times New Roman, not Fixedsys.

I'm running Windows 7 and I don't see it either. :specialed:

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Posted on 12-10-13 04:36:50 AM (last edited by usr_share at 12-10-13 04:37:18 AM) Link | Quote
To Kak64: If you want Fixedsys, just get Fixedsys Excelsior. It'll work on all systems.

Edit your layout and add

@font-face {src:url(http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/fonts/FSEX300.ttf);
font-family:"Fixedsys Excelsior"; }

to your CSS. Then you can use font-family: "Fixedsys Excelsior";.

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Posted on 12-10-13 12:02:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by usr_share
To Kak64: If you want Fixedsys, just get Fixedsys Excelsior. It'll work on all systems.

Edit your layout and add

@font-face {src:url(http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/fonts/FSEX300.ttf);
font-family:"Fixedsys Excelsior"; }

to your CSS. Then you can use font-family: "Fixedsys Excelsior";.

Nope, I have tried in many ways (even by adding the font url manually to a W3schools example), and it didn't work. Either because I'm linking to a TTF font, or because I've broken the URL. Or it is that I know almost nothing about CSS. It's just it's a miracle I was able to code this layout.

So I'm just keeping this font as a "bonus" to whoever can see it until I replace it with a web-safe font. :/

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Posted on 12-10-13 01:13:36 PM (last edited by usr_share at 12-10-13 01:14:23 PM) Link | Quote
Dunno. Embedding TTF fonts works for me (see the Chrono Trigger font?). Unless you're running Internet Explorer, they should work fine.

The other problem may occur if the server you're getting the font from isn't configured in a certain way. (I host the fonts I use on my server, which has it OK.)

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Posted on 12-10-13 01:54:55 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by usr_share
Dunno. Embedding TTF fonts works for me (see the Chrono Trigger font?). Unless you're running Internet Explorer, they should work fine.

The other problem may occur if the server you're getting the font from isn't configured in a certain way. (I host the fonts I use on my server, which has it OK.)
I can see that font, so it's probably me being stupid at CSS.

How should it be edited?

Post header:

http://pastebin.com/SYpeJgRn

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Posted on 12-10-13 02:15:01 PM Link | Quote
Please use something like this:
Webfont Generator

It also makes sure it works in all modern browsers (including recent IE versions).

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Posted on 12-10-13 02:16:13 PM (last edited by usr_share at 12-10-13 04:25:36 PM) Link | Quote
Try this out. http://pastebin.com/4v8kqKAW

I checked out the font in Firefox. Turns out, that's the exact server problem I was talking about before. So I've decided to host a copy of this font on my own server (which has correct settings, so that @font-face works).

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Posted on 12-10-13 05:17:49 PM (last edited by Kak64 at 12-11-13 11:13:16 AM) Link | Quote
Thanks!

But I just want to know if this font look right. I seem to have some problems with the font size because of the insanely high resolution of the monitor I'm using.

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Posted on 12-11-13 01:29:56 AM Link | Quote
In .kaknotepad2, change font-size to 16px. This should look the same on all resolutions.

Also, since you are embedding the font, it'd be better to put Fixedsys before Monospace in font-family. Even better, use the generic monospace instead of "Monospace".

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Posted on 12-11-13 11:18:08 AM (last edited by Kak64 at 12-11-13 02:33:42 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by usr_share
In .kaknotepad2, change font-size to 16px. This should look the same on all resolutions.

Also, since you are embedding the font, it'd be better to put Fixedsys before Monospace in font-family. Even better, use the generic monospace instead of "Monospace".

Okay, this should be the "final" version, right?

Unrelated, Fixedsys Excelsior looks quite different from Windows Fixedsys, so it doesn't have the same effect.

That's a good thing too, considering I was planning to move away from Fixedsys anyway.

EDIT: It also broke the Guru Meditation post. :/
EDIT2: The font looked different due to CSS error

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Posted on 12-12-13 06:27:21 AM Link | Quote
Still, you should use font-family: Fixedsys, monospace; instead of font-family: monospace, Fixedsys;. You put generic fonts after specific ones, not the other way around.

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Posted on 12-12-13 05:43:28 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by usr_share
Still, you should use font-family: Fixedsys, monospace; instead of font-family: monospace, Fixedsys;. You put generic fonts after specific ones, not the other way around.
Like this?

http://pastebin.com/JTCsHjDv

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Posted on 12-13-13 01:36:27 PM Link | Quote
Yes, your last post's layout looks right to me.

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Posted on 12-13-13 03:12:26 PM (last edited by Kak64 at 12-13-13 03:13:00 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by usr_share
Yes, your last post's layout looks right to me.
FINALLY!

Now I need to think about a different font to use in my posts... just kidding.

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Posted on 12-17-13 03:17:33 AM Link | Quote
Let's change everyone's font to Comic Sans MS because everyone on the forum is a big fan of it! I mean, c'mon. Is it not the coolest of all the fonts out there?

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I've actually been a fan of Comic Sans MS for a number of years. Don't know why so many people hate it, outside of looking unprofessional o.o

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I took a data entry class in high school where they taught us to work with excel and access. Often we'd have to print tables and whatnot to show how we learned to do x thing. The teacher had a requirement though: font had to be Comic Sans. She would not accept anything else....

As for my favorite font, I usually just do Calibri for Latin script languages, Kaiti for Chinese in general, Songti if it's a formal letter, and Bixingshu if it's a poem or something short and decorative.
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Posted on 12-23-13 08:50:10 AM (last edited by Kak64 at 12-23-13 08:51:05 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by FieryIce
The teacher had a requirement though: font had to be Comic Sans. She would not accept anything else....


Sometimes, I don't even know how some things are even possible. I remember teachers not accepting Comic Sans, but this? If it was supposed to be used for something not serious I'd approve, yeesh...

Usually here they don't give any restriction on which font you should use. Well, just some common sense is needed.

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line 725 column 92 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "97ACEF" and has been replaced
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line 741 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 741 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 741 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 750 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 755 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 228 column 301 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 735 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 196 column 39 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 226 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 228 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 253 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 286 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 322 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 350 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 384 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 670 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 698 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 726 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 404 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md