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Jul - The Cutting Room Floor - New Category Discussion: Prerelease Materials New poll - New thread - New reply
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Posted on 12-31-13 01:06:49 PM Link | Quote
In case you've been living under a rock (or just don't frequent either the IRC channel or Recent Changes page), we now officially have a Prerelease: category!

The rules are basically the same as those for the rest of the wiki, except the "no JPEGs" rule obviously doesn't apply (though if you can manage to find original lossless versions of prerelease materials, please use those instead!). We also ask that you do not attempt to remove watermarks from images, especially JPEGs, as this often only serves to decrease the image quality further (especially if you recompress the image as JPEG).

We're still finalizing the rules, so any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Posted on 01-19-14 04:56:16 PM (last edited by Dragonsbrethren at 01-20-14 05:12:07 PM) Link | Quote
Do you guys like the way I've started doing video analysis with time stamps in the Perfect Dark article?

http://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Perfect_Dark#Area_51

Granted, this might not be the most interesting footage ever, so maybe it's too many links. I figure this is better than saying "such and such can be seen in video X" like I have been, though.

Edit: Also, does anyone have recommendations for downloading YouTube videos? I'd hate to lose some of these.
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Posted on 01-22-14 03:46:42 AM Link | Quote
On Firefox there's a few plugins for download videos or saving their audio. I know some greasemonkey scripts exist to allow this as well.

I've also suggested in the past that TCRF open its own YouTube or othe videohosting account to provide a more controlled system of video coverage. Several articles over the past year have had videos that have been found via another user's channel and added to the article, but at a late date the video disappears because the original uploader deletes the video, makes it private, or the account is shutdown altogether.

If there's a really rare piece of footage that only one person has up, or a detailed example of how to see some unused stuff, it'd be worth archiving these videos in much the same way we would archive any other media in this kind of research.
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Posted on 01-22-14 06:11:29 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Celice
On Firefox there's a few plugins for download videos or saving their audio. I know some greasemonkey scripts exist to allow this as well.

I've also suggested in the past that TCRF open its own YouTube or othe videohosting account to provide a more controlled system of video coverage. Several articles over the past year have had videos that have been found via another user's channel and added to the article, but at a late date the video disappears because the original uploader deletes the video, makes it private, or the account is shutdown altogether.

If there's a really rare piece of footage that only one person has up, or a detailed example of how to see some unused stuff, it'd be worth archiving these videos in much the same way we would archive any other media in this kind of research.


I have actually started this (before I was even an admin), but Google's thrown a spanner in the works at the moment with everything. Currently under the "how is this not fake according to google" name of "Cuttin Roomfloor", the channel's called TCRFChannel. I haven't been doing much (limited bandwidth, thanks NZ ISPs), so if anyone wants to help out and re-upload videos, you're welcome to PM me for the user/pass IF I (and other admins) think you are "safe" enough to be trusted with the account.
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Posted on 01-22-14 02:27:42 PM Link | Quote
Celice, do you have any experience with any of those plugins? I'm just looking for whatever will give the best quality possible.
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Posted on 01-22-14 02:41:41 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Celice, do you have any experience with any of those plugins? I'm just looking for whatever will give the best quality possible.


Try JDownloader. Works well, especially if you get the offline installer.
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Posted on 01-22-14 03:15:16 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Celice, do you have any experience with any of those plugins? I'm just looking for whatever will give the best quality possible.

Not really, sadly. Preserving quality is of course the utmost importance, and I'm not sure how great any of these rippers would be at doing just that. Maybe check out einstein95's suggestion?

I'd offer to help with uploading videos to the channel, but I'm not very experienced in this realm of stuff. I wouldn't want to fuck something up early on and no one realizes until it's too late :/
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Posted on 01-22-14 07:58:52 PM (last edited by Cuber456 at 01-22-14 08:49:49 PM) Link | Quote
Out of curiosity, I just tried out JDownloader with a Nintendo trailer from YT. It is pretty darn good at preserving the quality of YT videos although it is a little hard to tell if it is perfect.
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Posted on 01-23-14 08:56:21 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by einstein95
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Celice, do you have any experience with any of those plugins? I'm just looking for whatever will give the best quality possible.


Try JDownloader. Works well, especially if you get the offline installer.

Ok, thanks. I'll give this a try later.
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Posted on 01-24-14 08:15:12 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Originally posted by einstein95
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Celice, do you have any experience with any of those plugins? I'm just looking for whatever will give the best quality possible.


Try JDownloader. Works well, especially if you get the offline installer.

Ok, thanks. I'll give this a try later.
Hey, maybe I can migrate from ByTubed now (although it still works perfectly even if the developers don't say that).
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Posted on 01-25-14 04:42:12 AM (last edited by Hiccup at 10-03-14 11:42:30 AM) Link | Quote
I reccomend youtube-dl. It is a command line python script with lots of options. It is also updated often.

If TCRF is going to have a youtube channel, it should probably be have a Google+ page associated with it so multiple owners can exist (and it gives you more social network coverage).

Edit: ..or not.
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Posted on 03-16-14 03:07:36 PM Link | Quote
I don't know if you guys knew about this, but Frank Cifaldi (Nintendo/video-games historian and archivist, writes in Gamasutra) recently was given a goldmine of stuff coming from the EGM magazine archive, including boxes full of pre-release material, press-kits, pictures and movies on diskettes and ZIP-disks, along with prerelease CDs and ROMs for a lot of games.

You can check his recent tweets for some photos. I don't think he had time yet to scan and convert everything.



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Posted on 12-21-14 04:52:11 PM Link | Quote
Should I add the in-development Doom assets to the prerelease article I just started? Scans, sketches, the demon-dinotoy hybrid, etc?
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Posted on 12-21-14 10:33:36 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Should I add the in-development Doom assets to the prerelease article I just started? Scans, sketches, the demon-dinotoy hybrid, etc?

Yeah, please do.
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Posted on 12-22-14 07:00:59 PM Link | Quote
So, I have a question about the way pre-release files are managed. Why are they only tagged with the name of the game rather than the system? I'm okay with the game tags being there, but why not the system?
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Posted on 12-22-14 10:08:32 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
So, I have a question about the way pre-release files are managed. Why are they only tagged with the name of the game rather than the system? I'm okay with the game tags being there, but why not the system?


GlitterBerri thought that it would be tougher to navigate when all the prerelease stuff was combined by system. As in, tens of thousands of images filling up a whole section, since several games can have thousands of images and stuffing them all into a section is tedious to navigate.
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Posted on 05-17-15 11:56:25 PM Link | Quote
Would still images from a video included in the actual game count as pre-release stuff?

Volition's The Punisher shows a video in the end credits with really early UI designs, and some cheats that were removed in the final game (big head mode, for example.)
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Posted on 05-18-15 12:25:29 AM Link | Quote
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger also has an unlockable "Making of" video, I assume would fall under a similar situation as the one in the previous post
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Posted on 09-23-16 08:48:28 PM Link | Quote
I just spent the entire day uploading this stuff to the Internet Archive.

https://archive.org/details/GameStation2000MagazineTokyoGameShow2000Spring

It's two VCDs full of footage from the Tokyo Game Show 2000 - Spring. The audio is pretty useless, but there is tons of trailer footage for games from that year. It's all taken with a video camera from a distance, but the quality is mostly okay. These are Bin+Cue files so you should be able to load them with any disc mounting software, then play them back with VLC.
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