Originally posted by hydra-calm
For me it's about having some kind of experience to transmute with it, I think -- even something else fictional. I don't know of a good example I'm comfortable with sharing here, but hopefully it's clear what I mean... not that adult life gives too much meaningful to work with. I am pretty sympathetic toward what a lot of people would call self-indulgence here -- I don't think what music is "meant to say" matters all that much usually, but how it combines with what you're already experiencing.
oh, i really like this... i completely agree. actually i think last year was a... richer year for me than this one, experientially, and having things to connect my music experiences with really helps keep it vital and fresh and real, you know? i feel more connected with the music i listen to if i let the sort of... emotional and aesthetic beats of the music to attach themselves to what's going on around me, or other things i like. i guess i really really adore transformative art, if that makes sense. like art whose meaning changes depending on how it interacts with other art, other experiences, etc etc. i think that's why impressionistic lyricism has been a big thing in popular music for most of the past 50 years -- i think when the shape of a song isn't necessarily given a hard definition it has the room to grow in ways you might not even expect. and a song's potency and relevance can last so much longer that way, too.
there's other things, too... one thing that's never, ever made me like music more is music criticism. i've always, always found that it just detracts from the value of music because it expects music to be -- like i touched upon already, i guess -- this rigid, fixed thing, like some canonized album "works of art" kind of are (shit like the way people treat sgt peppers or even ok computer -- which, you know, is an album i
like but a lot of the weird hyperbolic adulation of radiohead esp after the minidiscs leaked makes me super uncomfortable)
that's why i think what sofi said is important too, and i think that's the problem with feeling like you shouldn't take breaks from music or you Don't Love It Anymore -- you don't give it the room to gestate or grow and root itself in you if you're constantly staring it down trying to figure out what it is you liked about it in the first place, i guess. you don't have to constantly be interacting with something for it to be a part of you, you know?
i often take for granted that everything must have been amazing when i heard it for the first time, too, when that's actually just... not true if i'm being honest. growing up there was a lot of music i didn't even get or like at the time that i love now. i love in rainbows but the first time i heard it i thought it was stupid and radiohead had totally lost it. i love unwound but i actually dismissed all of their non-leaves music as "sonic youth aping cliches" at one point because it bored me. the first time i heard loveless it kind of just passed me by and i hated modest mouse the first time i heard them. like i just mentioned i used to
actively hate pet sounds. sometimes the core of what music is takes time to reveal itself. sometimes the spark comes to you one day when you're listening to something for the millionth time, or it connects with something inside you, and you're like "oh."
it's why it's hard for me to post in this thread sometimes -- i like the feeling of sharing things i'm enthusiastic about and finding out someone else likes x thing is always really exciting! but too often i find myself trying way too hard to describe why i like something in literal terms, getting all analytical about it, and it just exhausts me
anyway my ultimate point is fuck robert christgau fuck pitchfork fuck rateyourmusic and SUPER fuck anthony fantano, lou reeed was right, robert christgau IS a toefucker, bye
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