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Posted on 10-03-12 06:54:49 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 04-11-14 11:40:15 PM) Link | Quote
My sales have been going remarkably well, so I'm gonna give this a shot again.

Case: Scythe Ikazuti DS (Already purchased, I've had this for over a year. Cost me like five bucks brand new. )

Video card: Currently undecided between an eVGA Geforce GTX 750ti Superclock 2GBs, or an MSI R9 270/270xs (a seller at a forum has both for a low price.) The former would have better PhysX support and NVidia Shadowplay support... I can't think of a reason to go with a 270, heh. Thoughts? :p

CPU: I dunno yet, but probably an Intel. I wanted to go for an AMD 6 or 8 core CPU but I don't really do much video and music transcoding anymore, so I'm thinking of going for an Intel build for the first time. (I've always built computers with AMD CPUs.) I have no interest in overclocking, so a non-K CPU would be fine.

CPU Cooler: I want to get one of those watercooling blocks for the system. My home can get pretty hot in the summer and I don't want to risk having my system overheat. I know half of comes down to the ventilation in the system but I want to be sure nothing messes up.

Motherboard: I dunno. Depends on the CPU.

RAM: Want at least 8 GB.

OS: Not needed, I already have Windows XP Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate. I plan to dual-boot the machine, keeping XP around for the (few) games that won't run on 7. Depends on how much of a pain in the ass it is to make the PC dual boot.

HDs: I have three on my computer I can just reuse, but I might get a small SSD to keep the Windows 7 install on. My current main partition is 100 GB and I only use 66 GB of it.

Sound card: I have an old Audigy X-Fi PCI Fatal1ty card that's worked well for me for the past two years, but the drivers stink. I might go with onboard audio depending on the motherboard, I only use basic 2.0 speakers so it's not a problem.

Any thoughts? Comments? Bueller? Bueller?
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Posted on 10-25-12 01:58:02 AM Link | Quote
I approve of your CPU choice, while a tiny bit dated, it'll take a lot of action. I'd snag it from Newegg (looks like $99 right now) or the like rather than Amazon though, I've had poor experiences with Amazon and computer parts.

That CPU however, is pretty high on the wattage, so if you're gonna combine it with a nice powerful GPU, you'll need a beefy power supply. One area not to cheap out on for sure, given clean power can extend the life of a machine by a great deal, and keep it cooler to a degree.

If you're planning on doing gaming, or well, running Windows for that matter, I'd recommend a minimum of 8GB RAM, and leaving room for expansion never hurts, so I'd recommend a motherboard along the lines of an MSI 760GM-E51 that can potentially stack up to 32GB, and put a pair of matched 4GB DDR3-1333 modules in it to start out. Should leave a comfortable amount of room to say, drop in a pair of 8GB DIMMs later and total 24GB of memory if 8GB doesn't turn out to be enough

My motherboard suggestion does not, however, have more than 1 PCI-e x16 slot, so if you're looking to Crossfire/SLI a pair of graphics cards, you'll have to shop around more. It also doesn't have SATA 6Gb/s, so if you're taking the SSD route and getting a brand-spanking-now speedy 6Gb/s SSD, that would also be a reason to go hunting something more expensive. It does have a few features that i personally see as important in my machines, that being gigabit ethernet, plenty of built-in USB ports (though not USB 3), and an all-important serial port (or headers for one anyway) and S/PDIF as part of the onboard audio card (perfect for serving part-time as a media PC, and feeding a surround system)

So there's my thoughts
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Posted on 10-28-12 01:49:13 AM Link | Quote
You post this as I end up being bankrupt.

I had to cancel my hopes for a new PC. Sales have been pretty bad lately and I can't afford a new rig. Anyway, I decided to go with an Intel CPU instead but those things are pretty pricey. :\
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Posted on 04-11-14 11:40:34 PM Link | Quote
So hey, guess I have money now and can try this again.
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Posted on 04-12-14 09:36:53 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
Video card: Currently undecided between an eVGA Geforce GTX 750ti Superclock 2GBs, or an MSI R9 270/270xs (a seller at a forum has both for a low price.) The former would have better PhysX support and NVidia Shadowplay support... I can't think of a reason to go with a 270, heh. Thoughts? :p


The EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC might be a better bet if you do intend to use Shadowplay (or NVENC in the new Xsplit/Open Broadcaster Software builds). It should still make most games playable on mostly high 1080p settings, maybe Ultra with new drivers at above 30 FPS by average.

I was intending to invest in that same card later on as well so let me know how this turns out if you do buy that.

Originally posted by Foxhack
My sales have been going remarkably well, so I'm gonna give this a shot again.

CPU: I dunno yet, but probably an Intel. I wanted to go for an AMD 6 or 8 core CPU but I don't really do much video and music transcoding anymore, so I'm thinking of going for an Intel build for the first time. (I've always built computers with AMD CPUs.) I have no interest in overclocking, so a non-K CPU would be fine.


If you're using an Intel CPU, I highly suggest any of the Ivy Bridge/Haswell i5 CPUs. Remember to use the right socket for the motherboard of course (LGA1155 for Sandy/Ivy Bridge, LGA1150 for Haswell). I run an i5 4440 CPU on my desktop and it hasn't bottlenecked any of my games. Then again, I'm a Twitch streamer so I needed to invest in something like this. If you need some extra power, you can try the i5 4670 CPU.
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Posted on 04-12-14 11:11:15 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Richard
Originally posted by Foxhack
Video card: Currently undecided between an eVGA Geforce GTX 750ti Superclock 2GBs, or an MSI R9 270/270xs (a seller at a forum has both for a low price.) The former would have better PhysX support and NVidia Shadowplay support... I can't think of a reason to go with a 270, heh. Thoughts? :p


The EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC might be a better bet if you do intend to use Shadowplay (or NVENC in the new Xsplit/Open Broadcaster Software builds). It should still make most games playable on mostly high 1080p settings, maybe Ultra with new drivers at above 30 FPS by average.

I was intending to invest in that same card later on as well so let me know how this turns out if you do buy that.

Originally posted by Foxhack
My sales have been going remarkably well, so I'm gonna give this a shot again.

CPU: I dunno yet, but probably an Intel. I wanted to go for an AMD 6 or 8 core CPU but I don't really do much video and music transcoding anymore, so I'm thinking of going for an Intel build for the first time. (I've always built computers with AMD CPUs.) I have no interest in overclocking, so a non-K CPU would be fine.


If you're using an Intel CPU, I highly suggest any of the Ivy Bridge/Haswell i5 CPUs. Remember to use the right socket for the motherboard of course (LGA1155 for Sandy/Ivy Bridge, LGA1150 for Haswell). I run an i5 4440 CPU on my desktop and it hasn't bottlenecked any of my games. Then again, I'm a Twitch streamer so I needed to invest in something like this. If you need some extra power, you can try the i5 4670 CPU.


The guy who's selling those cards is a Bitcoin miner that's parting out some of his farming PCs. He's got a ton of good cards that are a few months old, most were underclocked so they haven't been stressed and none are registered so they have full warranty.

I'll likely go with the 750 Ti SC because of its lower power usage. Electricity costs a hell of a lot down here in the summer.

As for that CPU you suggested - holy hell, $220? And the motherboards are $200 too? Now I remember why I used to stick to AMD...
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Posted on 04-12-14 11:30:32 AM Link | Quote
If you decide on going with an AMD CPU, the FX-series is definitely a must for those. The FX-6300 (on sale for $110 at this time @ Newegg) series is cheap as fuck compared to Intel's. You can also try the AMD Athlon X4 760K CPU ($85) since it doesn't have integrated graphics, although it's an FM2+ motherboard (compared to AM3+ for the FX-series). You said you're not doing video encoding so the Athlon CPU is good for starting up in gaming. However, upgrading the FM2+ mobo is limited to this Athlon model and most of the A8/A10 APUs, and it's not worth it if you have a dedicated GPU to begin with.
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Posted on 04-12-14 11:46:45 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Richard
If you decide on going with an AMD CPU, the FX-series is definitely a must for those. The FX-6300 (on sale for $110 at this time @ Newegg) series is cheap as fuck compared to Intel's. You can also try the AMD Athlon X4 760K CPU ($85) since it doesn't have integrated graphics, although it's an FM2+ motherboard (compared to AM3+ for the FX-series). You said you're not doing video encoding so the Athlon CPU is good for starting up in gaming. However, upgrading the FM2+ mobo is limited to this Athlon model and most of the A8/A10 APUs, and it's not worth it if you have a dedicated GPU to begin with.


Eh, I'll probably suck it up and go Intel. I want to future proof my PC, even if it costs a bit (okay a lot) more. I've been using an Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition for years, I WANT MORE POWER. XD
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