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Posted on 02-08-12 04:52:26 PM Link | Quote
Already watched 0079, Zeta, CCA, F91, 0080, 08th MS Team, Turn A, and Gundam X. I just finished ZZ.

So- what made it seem wise to take the note Zeta ended on and use it for a comedy series? Staff, not least of which was Tomino, wanted something that WASN'T bleak after Zeta; I get that! But surely they could've found a better way to go about this. Do a series farther in the future, leave Zeta's ending for later, for example.

And then 20 episodes in the plot arrives and it stops being a comedy series. It's better after this, though still a fairly average Gundam series.

Anyway- thinking I'll do Victory next?
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Posted on 02-12-12 04:16:13 AM Link | Quote
I don't see any 0083 or G in that list, bro. We're gonna have to have a talk about that.

(also, I appreciate and thoroughly approve of the existence of a Gundam thread, thank you for posting it. :x )
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Posted on 02-12-12 04:40:32 AM Link | Quote
I am getting to those!

Also- Victory is supposed to be depressing, but after a while the sheer number of characters who show up, introduce themselves, and die horribly is kinda funny. "Okay, so we have a name. Now... guillotine? Crushing? Explosion? How are you going to die?" Eventually you just expect anyone with a name to die pointlessly, painfully, and soon.
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Posted on 02-12-12 08:08:47 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Afti
I am getting to those!

Also- Victory is supposed to be depressing, but after a while the sheer number of characters who show up, introduce themselves, and die horribly is kinda funny. "Okay, so we have a name. Now... guillotine? Crushing? Explosion? How are you going to die?" Eventually you just expect anyone with a name to die pointlessly, painfully, and soon.


You'd probably like the Ideon movie. D: I've never seen it aside from the clip-reel, but holy shit everyone dies.
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Posted on 02-12-12 08:49:33 PM (last edited by Afti at 02-12-12 09:01 PM) Link | Quote
Finished Victory. Angel Halo is fucking terrifying; managed to cross from dramatic to funny back to dramatic with the bodycount, which is impressive! (On a related note: Victory's credits were clearly done by people who had never watched an episode of the show; it's hilarious how upbeat they are when the series itself is this bloodbath.)

Probably going to wrap up the OVAs next- 0083 and the MSIGLOO stuff. Then G?

After the last of the 0079 OVAs and G Gundam I'll just have the dregs of the franchise, really- SEED, 00 (I hear the movie is supposed to be really, really awful?) and Endless Waltz.
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Posted on 03-01-12 03:45:24 PM Link | Quote
What, no Gundam Wing?

(To be honest, I've been trying to forget the series. Don't ask me why. )

And, don't forget SD Gundam.

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Posted on 03-07-12 05:06:23 PM (last edited by Afti at 03-07-12 05:07 PM) Link | Quote
Oh, right. I watched Wing at one point.

That is one impressively forgettable series.

also, at the risk of being gutted: G Gundam sucks. Really hard.
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Posted on 03-09-12 05:37:57 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Afti
Oh, right. I watched Wing at one point.

That is one impressively forgettable series.

also, at the risk of being gutted: G Gundam sucks. Really hard.


Are you being an idiot and watching it subbed? D: It needs the hamminess of the dub to make it work on a Shin Mazinger-level of hotbloodedness. Also, all the stereotypes.

(I really think I should just make this into "Let's watch all the Mecha anime!", because you're gonna run out of Gundam pretty damn soon. D: )
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Posted on 03-09-12 05:54:05 PM Link | Quote
I watched everything else subbed! It didn't pose too much of a problem.

G Gundam is hilarious sometimes, but it doesn't keep up the same fever pitch of insanity the whole way through; it spends too much time attempting to treat its subject matter with just the teensiest bit of seriousness, and that ruins the whole show.

I have MSIGLOO left (all of it) and then I'm out of UC until Unicorn 5 hits. Supposedly MSIGLOO is really good, and I'm willing to believe that.

Still looks like a PS2 JRPG cutscene.

Once that's done with- Endless Waltz is a Wing sequel, which automatically makes me suspicious of it. I know I watched every episode of Gundam Wing, but I can't recall a single plot point; it's just so BLAND.

SEED is supposedly an average series with a really, really horrid sequel, right? And shitty animation, but it can't outdo 0079 in that regard.

00- I understand the series is a subject of mixed opinions, but the movie is unanimously agreed to suck hard.

Which of these should be next? Don't say AGE; I don't intend to watch it until it's finished airing. Supposedly it sucks anyway.

And because I know you all care so much, here is Afti's Gundam Ranking, compiled from what I've seen so far:

Best

Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory
Turn A Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team
Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam

Everything above this line is good to excellent and should absolutely be watched

After War Gundam X

Everything below this line is bad, and I would not recommend watching any of these

Mobile Suit Gundam F91
Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ
Mobile Fighter G Gundam
New Mobile Report Gundam Wing

Worst

Feel free to recommend non-Gundam; this should help you to get an idea of what series I might like.

Unicorn isn't finished yet, but it'll probably be up there with the 90's OVAs if it doesn't go anywhere stupid with its plot.

I really wish F91 had been a series like it was supposed to; there are traces of something interesting there. But it's just so hopelessly muddled- 14 episodes cut into one movie, without 0079's pacing issues, result in something absolutely unwatchable. I'd watch F91 produced as a series in a heartbeat, but I really can't say much good about what we got.

ZZ would be an acceptable series if the first 20 or so episodes were cut into four or five; it just drags on WAY too long with no plot to speak of. That, and the ZZ is a terrible mech design!
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Posted on 03-09-12 06:32:18 PM Link | Quote
As someone who is kinda new to the Gundam series (read: Wing was the first one for me) I have no idea if the older ones are any good. I do, however, suggest watching 00 and SEED, I liked both. While 00 is far better for many reasons, I like some of the things that are in SEED as well. :<

Anyhow, when you run out of Gundam, I'm just going to suggest you watch zeorymer. While a rather short animation, it got a pretty interesting plot. (Or maybe it's just me who got weird tastes. ; )
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Posted on 03-11-12 01:13:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Afti

I have MSIGLOO left (all of it) and then I'm out of UC until Unicorn 5 hits. Supposedly MSIGLOO is really good, and I'm willing to believe that.



Tell me how it is! I haven't watched it at all, but I heard only good things about it.

Originally posted by Lunaria
zeorymer


...yeah, fuck it: THIS IS NOW A MECHA THREAD.

I actually haven't heard of Zeorymer. The fact that they took something that seems to be pornography and turned it into a 4-episode OVA that *isn't* pornography is pretty impressive.

Also, has anyone here seen MD Geist, or is it just me? D:
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Posted on 03-11-12 04:55:40 AM Link | Quote
I don't know... I thought Seed/Destiny were okay, somewhat, though I'll admit I haven't watched too much of either of them.

And it's been years since I watched F-91, so... damn it, now I'm going to have to pull out the tapes and watch it again. Thanks a lot, Afti. And 0080 and 0083, too. Nobody tell me I need to re-watch Char's Counterattack, please.

(And, I'll probably have to actually, finally get around to watching Shin Mazinger, too.)

Well, I've been re-watching Macross, lately (though I haven't felt like pulling out Love: Do You Remember, just yet (OR Clash of the Bionoids, for no sane reason)). Judges, does that count?

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Posted on 03-12-12 09:00:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Aoi
(And, I'll probably have to actually, finally get around to watching Shin Mazinger, too.)

Well, I've been re-watching Macross, lately (though I haven't felt like pulling out Love: Do You Remember, just yet (OR Clash of the Bionoids, for no sane reason)). Judges, does that count?



Macross counts, although it isn't quite my thing. :x Shin Mazinger counts harder -- I just started watching that recently, and it's a hell of a ride.

I'm personally trying to catch up on a bunch of classics that I've missed out on -- Getter Robo and shit like that. Anyone versed in Getter that can point me to a good start? D:
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Posted on 03-13-12 05:16:25 AM Link | Quote
I can't find the first Gundam series anywhere and because of that i feel i can't even start watching them. Too bad.
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Posted on 03-14-12 04:08:34 AM Link | Quote
You don't have to start from the very beginning. You could try 0083 and/or 0080, for a start.

I'll admit that another reason I'm watching Macross is because I needed an excuse to actually watch the Southern Cross+Mospeada ADV box set I picked up... damn, can't remember how long ago it was, but it wasn't long after its release.

...then I remembered, I'm supposed to be getting around to rewatching Bubblegum Crisis, too.
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Posted on 03-14-12 06:08:26 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Aoi
You don't have to start from the very beginning. You could try 0083 and/or 0080, for a start.

I'll admit that another reason I'm watching Macross is because I needed an excuse to actually watch the Southern Cross+Mospeada ADV box set I picked up... damn, can't remember how long ago it was, but it wasn't long after its release.

...then I remembered, I'm supposed to be getting around to rewatching Bubblegum Crisis, too.

I have to watch most of them you mentioned, maybe if i start with the prequels instead of the one that was first made i could watch them.
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Posted on 03-16-12 04:34:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by SamuelEarl666
I have to watch most of them you mentioned, maybe if i start with the prequels instead of the one that was first made i could watch them.


The thing is, half of the entire Gundam franchise is stand-alone seasons that don't have anything to do with other series.

See: G Gundam, Gundam Wing, Gundam X, Turn-A Gundam, Seed, 00, AGE, etc. All of these series are each their own entity, totally unrelated to one another aside from having similar mecha design.

Except, perhaps, for Turn-A, but Turn-A is weird.
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Posted on 03-17-12 04:47:30 AM Link | Quote
∀ is theoretically independent of every other series, but in practice is best watched as late as possible. The more series you see first, the more you'll appreciate it.

I can't recommend it highly enough, though- it falls outside of the UC "canon", but it's one of Tomino's best works.

Also has a Gundam designed by Syd Motherfucking Mead.

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Posted on 03-17-12 01:43:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Afti



Oh, I've got no problems with the Turn-A. Somewhere around the house is a no-grade 1/100 scale Turn A that I put together around when the anime came out. That thing is like a fucking TANK, most solid model I've ever put together. Accidentally dropped it down the stairs, the mustache barely even moved.
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Posted on 03-17-12 06:40:54 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Afti
∀ is theoretically independent of every other series, but in practice is best watched as late as possible. The more series you see first, the more you'll appreciate it.

I can't recommend it highly enough, though- it falls outside of the UC "canon", but it's one of Tomino's best works.

Also has a Gundam designed by Syd Motherfucking Mead.



I don't know who Syd is but that does look cool. Also since this is a Mecha thread has anyone seen an anime called Bokurano (Japanese only, means 'uninstall') since its quite interesting. Not for someone that only wants action though.
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