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Posted on 08-05-11 03:19:23 PM Link
Keep in mind, the mafia had that no-kill round, it's completely possible that said round told them kruto was the thug and they contacted him after that.
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Posted on 08-05-11 03:38:33 PM Link
Originally posted by Sukasa
Keep in mind, the mafia had that no-kill round, it's completely possible that said round told them kruto was the thug and they contacted him after that.


Ah, that is true and I forgot about that. Assuming they did this, legacyme3 (if he were Mafia) probably wouldn't have accused and voted for kruto right after the Godfather died. So... that would again point into your direction.

But eh, let's wait for the night round to end, see who dies and that's probably gonna narrow the whole thing down anyways.
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Posted on 08-05-11 03:43:31 PM Link
Hm, that's right. Perhaps we'll see, then.
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Posted on 08-05-11 06:39:58 PM Link
Oh, no!

Sanky, the Doctor was killed in the night.

But wait... There's more! MaxKnight, the Trapper, was caught in his own trap!

List O' Players: (Mafia to Bystanders - 1:2)
1. MaxKnight
2. legacyme3
3. Imajin
4. Ketsuban
5. Kirby Mario
6. Sanky
7. MM200
8. Sukasa
9. Ramon
10. BlueWhirl
11. krutomisi

List O' Positions:
Bystanders (2)
The Doctor
The Sheriff
The Mafia Member
The Thug
The Trapper
The Godfather
The Insomniac

This is the end.
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Posted on 08-05-11 06:41:56 PM Link
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Posted on 08-05-11 06:48:03 PM Link
Originally posted by Sanky
Heeeeeealing MaxKnight today.




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Posted on 08-05-11 06:56:20 PM (last edited by Sukasa at 08-05-11 06:56 PM) Link
As I see it, either Ramon or Legacyme3 is the member. Going off Ramon's sudden reversal and attack on both infighters (Legacyme3 and I), I'm now inclined to believe Legacyme3's claim of innocence, and believe Ramon is the mafia member.
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Posted on 08-05-11 07:56:21 PM Link
Well one of us is the mafia member then.

As expected, MaxKnight WAS the trapper, and I believe I nailed Sanky as the Doctor too...

Originally posted by legacyme3

MaxKnight- trapper
legacyme3- bystander
Sanky- Doctor
Sukasa- thug
Ramon- bystander
Krutomisi- mafia



I got Sanky, MaxKnight, and myself right, and it's possible I flipflopped mafia and thug :/

I think Sukasa could be playing mind games right now. If I remember correctly, this is the last round. If we get this wrong, we lose.

I'm gonna need to do some thinking before I do an official accusation. All I can be sure of is that I'm one of the two bystanders.

Sukasa, Ramon, make your cases.
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Posted on 08-05-11 08:39:09 PM Link
I don't have much of a case to make. You acted strangely, I went after you, and Ramon stayed out of the way for most of it. Now that we're in the final stretch, he's turned around and tried to present each of us as the mafia member to each other.

That's about it.
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Posted on 08-06-11 06:47:35 AM (last edited by Ramon at 08-06-11 06:48 AM) Link
Originally posted by Sukasa
As I see it, either Ramon or Legacyme3 is the member. Going off Ramon's sudden reversal and attack on both infighters (Legacyme3 and I), I'm now inclined to believe Legacyme3's claim of innocence, and believe Ramon is the mafia member.


Let me get some things straight (this is the last round and it's just extremely important to evaluate everything that's happened):

I was never really suspicious of legacyme3 in first place. I only mentioned (while voting for kruto) that if he turned out to be a bystander (he was the thug, remember), then logically you two would have to be Mafia and Thug, since as the remaining bystander it would completely eliminate the possibility of any other constellation (considering the trapper and the doctor were known already (how unlucky could they have been to both die last night?!)).

Since legacyme3 has been playing offensively all along, I believed that he couldn't have had any important role (those would play more carefully... yep, believe me, I've been bystander on Jul for eons ), especially not after the Godfather was lynched.

Sukasa, you've been suspicious to me in the beginning because of your silence (I didn't know about the thing with the job, but that wouldn't automatically make you a bystander), and your sudden burst of activity after the Godfather died just seemed... not right. Perhaps you noticed you were the last Mafia standing and after a round or two realized you actually still had a chance, which would explain your more frequent outings. Perhaps you also tried to direct the trapper and the doctor in a way to ease your night kill, don't know if that was your intention, but could easily have been so.

I don't believe I've witnessed any kind of discussion between you two, and I don't see where I could have stayed out of it, but Sukasa, you've been suspicious to me for a longer time already.
I guess this is the final stroke. We either win this or lose this.
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Posted on 08-06-11 07:01:47 AM (last edited by legacyme3 at 08-06-11 08:05 AM) Link
Well for now, I am undecided.

Originally posted by Sukasa


Well, that explains why he defended Imajin. So, likely it's either me or Legacyme that's mafia, and I still stand by my innocence.




I know I am not mafia, which could only mean Sukasa was. However, Sukasa also genuinely thought I was mafia, and being a possible bystander, would have revealed himself as such through his actions, condemning me (again, if I was mafia)

So I don't see this as incriminating evidence.

Ramon on the other hand, has been under the radar pretty much all game.

Originally posted by Ramon

Perhaps you also tried to direct the trapper and the doctor in a way to ease your night kill, don't know if that was your intention, but could easily have been so.



This did hit me at first as a possibility, however, I also realized it was probably the best thing the mafia could have done. It benefited the mafia to kill Sanky or MaxKnight, because neither have been heavily under the suspicion of being mafia. As such, it led to there just being less chances of figuring out who mafia was.

The fact both was killed could have been the plan, or it could have been dumb luck. I had a feeling the trapper (whether it was Max or anyone else) was going to trap his own room. If I came to that suspicion, it's likely the mafia member did, and took advantage to kill the other.

I'm going to have to look into every post again, just to make sure I get all the information.

As it stands, the three of us remaining each have reasons why we could and couldn't be mafia.

As it is though, I have no firm choice as of this moment. Maybe tomorrow afternoon when I've had more time to digest.

Edit- I'm gonna feel stupid if I am wrong here.

But...

I'm going to vote for Ramon

It took me some thinking, but there's nothing I can expect to gain to increase my chances of getting the right call. Ramon has been playing buddy buddy like, and trying to make it clear he never suspected me. Maybe he thought that meant I'd stick with him, and he'd have a valuable piece to use. In this case, I didn't trust it for a second.

Now, if Sukasa is the last mafia member, you all have the right to slap me around with a fish.
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Posted on 08-06-11 08:10:19 AM Link
It's the final Final Voting Round!

Your choices:
1. Sukasa
2. Ramon
3. *Unassigned*

This is your last chance to change each other's minds. Use it wisely.
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Posted on 08-06-11 12:08:42 PM Link
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Posted on 08-06-11 01:59:37 PM (last edited by Ramon at 08-06-11 02:01 PM) Link
Originally posted by legacyme3
Ramon has been playing buddy buddy like, and trying to make it clear he never suspected me. Maybe he thought that meant I'd stick with him, and he'd have a valuable piece to use. In this case, I didn't trust it for a second.

Well, for one, I have not been "not suspecting" you for you. By the way you played the whole game, you certainly didn't stick out as Mafia to me at all. I was (and still am, seeing how Sukasa explains his thoughts just scarcely) quite convinced that you aren't Mafia, and I was just trying to keep another bystander alive. Trust isn't anything I would have needed from you at any time - not even now, if you would just see the facts a little clearer.

Originally posted by legacyme3
Ramon on the other hand, has been under the radar pretty much all game.

OK. I've been expressing my thoughts on the situations pretty much every time some new situation came up. Been trying to get people to talk (by plainly accusing them), to get more information.
Sukasa hasn't posted for two whole rounds and never really contributed anything useful to the game until after the Godfather died.

And I'm supposed to be the one who's been under the radar? Think again. (If you compared me to your own level of activity, then I guess anybody else would fall under the "under the radar" category too, since you've been literally hyperactive most of the game.)

Originally posted by legacyme3
This did hit me at first as a possibility, however, I also realized it was probably the best thing the mafia could have done. It benefited the mafia to kill Sanky or MaxKnight, because neither have been heavily under the suspicion of being mafia. As such, it led to there just being less chances of figuring out who mafia was.

He tried to tell the doctor who to protect, but ultimately, he couldn't know for sure what the doctor would do. In the end, the probability of successfully killing anybody else than the trapper would be higher than to kill the trapper.

Sukasa. This ends now. You haven't even responded to what I've been accusing you with.
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Posted on 08-06-11 04:12:25 PM Link
I don't respond to baseless accusations. Legacyme3, it is your call.
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Posted on 08-06-11 08:35:30 PM Link
This is difficult.

I didn't want to be in this position in my first time playing the game, but we don't get to pick how we play now do we?

I don't feel I have enough to go on, because both Ramon and Sukasa would be good Mafia members, and both would be good bystanders.

However, based solely on my own eyes, as well as how both have played. I will take a chance and vote for Ramon.

Sorry if I am wrong and lost the game Ramon.

And again, hit me with a fish if Sukasa is Mafia.
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Posted on 08-06-11 08:58:02 PM Link
Somehow, I keep failing against Sukasa in the last Mafia rounds it's starting to become a habit.
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Posted on 08-06-11 09:01:25 PM Link
One of these days we'll wind up on the same team. Seems our teams have reversed from last round, this time I'm the bystander .
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Posted on 08-06-11 09:05:44 PM Link
*in a Morgan Freeman voice*

Lost in all the calamity, legacyme3 finally went to sleep knowing nothing he does will change the game
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Posted on 08-07-11 04:57:28 AM Link
It's over, Ramon. It's a shame you had to die this way, especially since you were so close to winning again.

This time, however, you were the lone Mafia Member.

The Mafia has been eliminated, so The Bystanders win Round 6!

Bystanders: 3 - Mafia: 2

1. MaxKnight - Trapper
2. legacyme3 - Bystander
3. Imajin - Godfather
4. Ketsuban - Insomniac
5. Kirby Mario - Sheriff
6. Sanky - Doctor
7. MM200 - Bystander
8. Sukasa - Bystander
9. Ramon - Mafia
10. BlueWhirl - Bystander
11. krutomisi - Thug

Thanks for playing, everyone. Until next time!
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