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Taking a space shuttle to Zevra. Population, 1.

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World change
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Rules:

Permanent:
1. Rules that are made permanent can't be changed, removed or transmuted.
2. Rules that are in the tier below permanent can be voted to be added as permanent; in order to pass there needs to be a clear majority. Each player gets one vote when voting for this.
3. The game will end the first of June this year.

Immutable:
1.Immutable rules needs to be transmuted to mutable before they can be changed or removed.
2. Players take turns in order of the list, descending.
3. The player or the alliance with the highest score at the end of the game wins.
4. If two players forge an alliance they pool their points, but have to vote as one.
5. Players vote with their current score to decided of new rules are added, or current rules changed/removed.

Mutable:
1. In the case of a tie, a die roll will determine the outcome.
2. It costs two points to make, join or leave an alliance.
3. No rules can be made that will use values and/or objects outside of the game itself.

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Score:

1. Sanky - 8
2. The Red Snifit - 9
3. Girlydragon - 9
4. Imajin - 5
5. Arp1033 - 6
6. CB - 6 (7 - 1)

Worlds:

Nedara - The shadow - Arp1033
Varaa - The fire - Girlydragon
Vorani - The balance - Sanky, The Red Snifit
Undra - The infinity - Imajin
Zevra - The void - CB

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Round: 2
Next up: Sanky
Event: Star rain

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Turn event - Star rain:

At the end of this turn a d6 for each world is rolled to determine extra point(s) gained for each player on the specific world they are on. (individually, not shared.)

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I suggest changing mutable rule 3 to "No rule can be made targetting individual players using objects or values outside of this game's scope."

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I will pass.

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No thanks, I don't support loopholes.

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I see what you're trying to do, but I think it might actually create more problems than it solves, so I do not support it.

Edit: Besides, the official rule is this:
Originally posted by Girlydragon
No rule can target specific players by the use of outside elements to the game such as: username, post count, post length, layout or similar. Targeting specific players by turn order or amount of points is still allowed.

So I don't think the rewording is necessary.
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Posted on 04-23-11 04:10:57 PM Link
As TRS said, the official rules covers most nasty loopholes, whilst in the edited version we could be able to target players by using outside elements as long as we target more than one. So:

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Rule does not pass.
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Rules:

Permanent:
1. Rules that are made permanent can't be changed, removed or transmuted.
2. Rules that are in the tier below permanent can be voted to be added as permanent; in order to pass there needs to be a clear majority. Each player gets one vote when voting for this.
3. The game will end the first of June this year.

Immutable:
1.Immutable rules needs to be transmuted to mutable before they can be changed or removed.
2. Players take turns in order of the list, descending.
3. The player or the alliance with the highest score at the end of the game wins.
4. If two players forge an alliance they pool their points, but have to vote as one.
5. Players vote with their current score to decided of new rules are added, or current rules changed/removed.

Mutable:
1. In the case of a tie, a die roll will determine the outcome.
2. It costs two points to make, join or leave an alliance.
3. No rules can be made that will use values and/or objects outside of the game itself.

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Score:

1. Sanky - 17 (8 + 5 + 4)
2. The Red Snifit - 13 (9 + 4)
3. Girlydragon - 10 (9 + 1)
4. Imajin - 11 (5 + 1 + 5)
5. Arp1033 - 9 (6 + 3)
6. CB - 10 (6 + 4)

Worlds:

Nedara - The shadow - Arp1033 | event: (3)
Varaa - The fire - Girlydragon | event: (1)
Vorani - The balance - Sanky, The Red Snifit | event: (4)
Undra - The infinity - Imajin | event: (5)
Zevra - The void - CB | event: (4)

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Round: 2
Next up: The Red Snifit
Event: None

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Event ending: Turn event - Star rain:

At the end of this turn a d6 for each world is rolled to determine extra point(s) gained for each player on the specific world they are on. (individually, not shared.)

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Posted on 04-23-11 10:56:38 PM Link
The way our rules are currently set up, it requires a considerable amount of time and effort to make any progress. Our turns are quite valuable, and I don't like the idea of potentially spending two of them making just one change when our minds are clearly set at the end of the first turn.

As such, I propose this rule:

"In the event of a conflict between rules, the most recent rule supersedes any previous rules."
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Posted on 04-23-11 11:02:43 PM Link
Clever. I support this. (Which means I lose a point, right?)

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This is relevant to my interests. I am going to approve.

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I should note that, how it's set up right now, even though a new rule would take favor with this rule, it would still not overwrite the tier layers we have right now, as with that logic, you would have to overwrite both an immutable and permanent rule when making this rule, which is not possible by current rules.

Just wanted to let people know.

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So, you're saying that if we promote this rule to the upper tiers, it will apply to them as well?

If so, then I'm still willing to go with this rule.
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No, what I'm saying is that if you want this to work in other tiers then mutable (by current rules) you need to change the rules defining those tiers.

Specifically:

Immutable:
1.Immutable rules needs to be transmuted to mutable before they can be changed or removed.

Permanent:
1. Rules that are made permanent can't be changed, removed or transmuted.


Though, the later is unchangeable anyway...

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I'm giving my green light for this rule.

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Notice: TRS get to redo his turn as his rule did not work out with the current rules quite the way he thought.

Full log of the debate: Link

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Since the rule I proposed did not have the desired effect, I retract my suggestion and present a substitute:

Transmute the first Immutable Rule so that it is, instead, Mutable.

This will take a bit longer to get rid of, but the ultimate result should be about the same.
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I voted for the rule because I thought it subverted the permanent rule class, which I dislike but can't do anything about by definition.

So I'm going to pass instead.

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Imma pass this.

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I am for.

By the way, I would suggest re-suggesting your original rule later and then attempting to promote it to permanent.

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line 815 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 815 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 815 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 845 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 845 column 216 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 854 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 859 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 839 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 286 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 312 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 338 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 366 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 396 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 398 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 422 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 503 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 533 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 832 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 382 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md