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Posted on 12-08-15 06:49:08 PM Link | Quote
OH MY GOD

https://twitter.com/Foxhack/status/674371627103096832

JUST OH GOD. GODDAMNIT HUMBLE WHY THE HELL DOES DOTEMU STILL EXIST ARGH
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Posted on 12-08-15 06:58:22 PM Link | Quote
Hahahaha! I HAD to log in just to mention how hilarious that is.
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Posted on 12-08-15 07:11:26 PM Link | Quote
GameTap logo? Seriously?
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Posted on 12-08-15 09:34:36 PM Link | Quote
It's actually based off Nebula!

https://twitter.com/Phase4_/status/674411081360535552

Nobody knows why there's Gametap stuff in there.
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Posted on 12-08-15 11:51:30 PM (last edited by divingkataetheweirdo at 12-08-15 11:56:23 PM) Link | Quote
Funnily enough, Art of Fighting 2 used to be available on GameTap. That's most likely why it's there, but it is a bit on the lazy side. SNK Playmore was affiliated with GameTap from day one, so it isn't entirely shocking. Remember that this is likely before Steam really overtook everything.
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Posted on 12-09-15 12:07:03 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
Funnily enough, Art of Fighting 2 used to be available on GameTap. That's most likely why it's there, but it is a bit on the lazy side. SNK Playmore was affiliated with GameTap from day one, so it isn't entirely shocking. Remember that this is likely before Steam really overtook everything.


Yeah, a bunch of SNK games used to be up there. I remember downloading and playing The King of Fighters '97 on my nephew's PC when I was visiting them (they live in Tennessee, my PC was geolocked out.)

Still, why would they add a GameTap reference to their customized version of Nebula?

Anyway, I upped my donation, gave it all to charity, and downloaded all the games as they are right now in case they try to pull a switcheroo and hide that info. Not like they could do much now, especially with this sort of evidence just... THERE.
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Posted on 12-09-15 12:15:11 AM Link | Quote
I suspect they're just reusing the assets from the GameTap version (if not just outright copying the files for the GameTap version), meaning that they would have to have done this quite some time ago. I say this since the zip file has files that only go up to 2008. I don't know much about the internals of the GameTap system, but I think that logo is there for the old GameTap UI.
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Posted on 12-09-15 12:26:54 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
I suspect they're just reusing the assets from the GameTap version (if not just outright copying the files for the GameTap version), meaning that they would have to have done this quite some time ago. I say this since the zip file has files that only go up to 2008. I don't know much about the internals of the GameTap system, but I think that logo is there for the old GameTap UI.


Probably.

..................

just

What

The neogeo zip HAS A FRIGGIN TORRENTZIP COMMENT. I GIVE UP, I JUST GIVE UP

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Posted on 12-09-15 08:18:22 AM (last edited by Krvavi Abadas at 12-09-15 08:20:31 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
OH MY GOD

https://twitter.com/Foxhack/status/674371627103096832

JUST OH GOD. GODDAMNIT HUMBLE WHY THE HELL DOES DOTEMU STILL EXIST ARGH


Apparently you may have jumped the gun a bit here. DotEMU themselves wrote up an official statement, saying that they bought up the rights to Gametap's emulator (Which was using Nebula. If they had permission to use it back then i don't know.) over a year ago.
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Posted on 12-09-15 10:57:32 AM (last edited by Xkeeper at 12-09-15 10:57:40 AM) Link | Quote
That doesn't really excuse the downloading-a-ROM-torrent part, though
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Posted on 12-09-15 01:29:10 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 12-09-15 01:34:55 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Krvavi Abadas
Originally posted by Foxhack
OH MY GOD

https://twitter.com/Foxhack/status/674371627103096832

JUST OH GOD. GODDAMNIT HUMBLE WHY THE HELL DOES DOTEMU STILL EXIST ARGH


Apparently you may have jumped the gun a bit here. DotEMU themselves wrote up an official statement, saying that they bought up the rights to Gametap's emulator (Which was using Nebula. If they had permission to use it back then i don't know.) over a year ago.

I just saw the letter and replied to them.

Dotemu's been known to use MAME roms in the past, and many companies don't really have the original binary data available anyway. They resort to romdumps because it's their own property. I don't believe there's anything wrong with companies using these dumps for their emulation packages. But stolen code and stuff, when it does happen... that's not right.

And the whole legality of the thing may still be pretty sketchy.
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Posted on 12-09-15 03:43:51 PM Link | Quote
While looking inside the rom of Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D I found the original rsf they used to build the released rom.

Here it is:


BasicInfo:
Title: "MGS-SE3D" # アプリケーションタイトル
CompanyCode: "A4" # 会社コード
ProductCode: "CTR-P-AMGP" # 製品コード
MediaSize: 4GB # メディアのサイズ
Logo: Licensed # ロゴデータの指定
BackupMemoryType: 128KB # バックアップメモリ種別

CardInfo:
CardDevice: NorFlash # NorFlash か None を設定

TitleInfo:
Category: Application # タイトルのカテゴリ
UniqueId: 0x00824 # タイトルコードのユニーク ID

AccessControlInfo:
FileSystemAccess:
- DirectSdmc # SDカードへの直接アクセスを許可する(ImageDbライブラリ内からアクセスします)
UseExtSaveData: true # 拡張セーブデータを使用する場合は true を指定
ExtSaveDataNumber: 0x00824 # ユニークIDを拡張セーブデータ番号として使用する

Rom:
HostRoot: "romfilesRelease" # ROM ファイルシステムのルートとなるパス
Reject: # ROM ファイルシステムから除外するファイルとディレクトリ名の指定
- .svn
- ndpack.log



It even has the japanese comments on the side plus the development folders.
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Posted on 12-09-15 04:02:50 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
OH MY GOD

https://twitter.com/Foxhack/status/674371627103096832

JUST OH GOD. GODDAMNIT HUMBLE WHY THE HELL DOES DOTEMU STILL EXIST ARGH

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!
SNK, wake up already!
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Posted on 12-15-15 07:07:11 PM (last edited by WarioBarker at 12-15-15 07:26:20 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by AndyNPC
That Super Mario 64 footage reminds me of this Ocarina of Time footage where right at the start you can see the arrows connected to the six quest medallions on the item screen. That fits with the three unused damage types after the elemental arrows in the enemy damage charts.

I think you just gave Glitterberri a ton of material to work with for her Prerelease pages on this game.

A few other things of note with that inventory screen:
* The interface indicates that this is from the "Sword on A" period of development, when the B button was the action button.
* I think item placement is the same as the final (including the reserved space for the third and fourth Bottles), although the placement of the other three Medallions' slots suggests that the Goddess-related items aren't present yet.
* Link doesn't have the Forest Medallion, even though he has the weapons from the Forest (Bow), Fire (Megaton Hammer), and Water (Longshot) Temples and has the latter two Temples' Medallions.
* There's no grayed-out item in the bottom-right corner, which in the final game is Child Link's "accessory" item (and since the player is Adult Link, this would be either Zelda's Letter, a Mask, or "SOLD OUT"). Given that the Deku Sticks, Slingshot, and Boomerang items are all present but grayed-out, this may suggest that Zelda's Letter didn't exist at this point in development.

There's a lot of other differences, but I'd be here all day.
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Posted on 12-17-15 01:02:35 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 12-17-15 01:03:15 PM) Link | Quote
I realize I shouldn't be talking about the DotEmu crapfest, but eff it.

They added four new games yesterday, but one of them is... odd. The King of Fighters 2002 already has a change date. From December 4, 2015. All the rest are still unchanged.

I'm starting to wonder if there's a way to get the earlier builds on Humble...
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Posted on 01-07-16 03:45:58 PM Link | Quote
I found this pic from another forum board. It was a unused duck styled sphinx in background at the Egypt stage.
http://i69.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0708/7c/4e6cb7ebef91e5093d4c7a99947ad97c.png

Source: https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.emu-russia.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D224%26t%3D6028

(The TCRF page for Quackshot is still small? I've seen some peoples did make more finding at this game)
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Posted on 01-10-16 11:12:40 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by 2Tie
emulated, Sonic Jam's Blue Sphere title music (No way! No way?) seems to be faster than both the Megadrive S&K+S1 title music and the Sonic 3&K competition results music it's originally from. Can anyone test this on hardware?


Hey, dunno if you got your answer elsewhere, but I just checked and the song plays faster on hardware too. Doesn't matter where you play it either. It's fast in Blue Sphere, the results screen and the sound test.
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Posted on 01-11-16 06:25:45 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by sebmal
Originally posted by 2Tie
emulated, Sonic Jam's Blue Sphere title music (No way! No way?) seems to be faster than both the Megadrive S&K+S1 title music and the Sonic 3&K competition results music it's originally from. Can anyone test this on hardware?


Hey, dunno if you got your answer elsewhere, but I just checked and the song plays faster on hardware too. Doesn't matter where you play it either. It's fast in Blue Sphere, the results screen and the sound test.

Thinking about it now, that probably wasn't a necessary evaluation.
Sonic Jam uses music tracks on the disk, so either they where trying to save up on disc space by speeding the track up. either way i'll bring this up over at Sonic Retro's other knowledge thread while I subsequently link to this post and stealthily segue into my next topic of interest:
Tea Test.
On the Chronicles Cutting Room Floor page and in Strings.tlk There's seemingly random text stating "Tea Test"
I've been busy sorting out the files from Test.herf ripped by Xoreos Tools and it seems the final .plo file is:
plt_teatest.plo
plo files seem to manage missions/plot related events.

For example, let's take a look at plt_fp_amy.plo. inside is a flag with pointers and stuff. (I r codr boi) at the end is some notepad-readable text. it seems to indicate values of if Amy's mad at you, or if she's so happy that by the time for the final battle she wants to talk to you privately.
Tea Tests' text?
Originally posted by Tea Test
P O I S O N _ T E A ÿÿ
D R A N K _ T E A H A T E _ T E A

huh. I wonder why this is here.
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Posted on 01-11-16 07:43:39 PM Link | Quote
Sonic 3's version of the continue/competition results music is faster than S&K's. If Sonic Jam's song matches Sonic 3's, then there's your answer: they only included the Sonic 3 version of the music.
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Posted on 01-18-16 06:06:53 AM (last edited by sebmal at 01-18-16 06:11:23 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by MainMemory
Sonic 3's version of the continue/competition results music is faster than S&K's. If Sonic Jam's song matches Sonic 3's, then there's your answer: they only included the Sonic 3 version of the music.


Yep, that's it, just fired up my Sonic 3 cart to verify.

Huh, didn't know Jam stored the audio as tracks (although it makes total sense now that I do) and didn't know Sonic 3's version of the song was sped up. There's always something new to learn, even when it comes to stuff you thought you knew everything about!
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