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sofi
Posts: 3699/3796
honestly,

some of us don’t want to talk, much less talk to some robot assistant.

i can see how it’s “useful” to some ppl, but i’d probably not get one.

i hate the notifications prompt tho, worst part.
Ben_
Posts: 10/12
I honestly don't think this deadicated voice assistant thing will catch on.

The convenience of it is underwhelming, and definitely wouldn't justify the price.
Gabu
Posts: 9742/9806
Originally posted by BMF54123
Personally I'm a huge fan of "[bad website] would like to send you notifications"

How about you throw yourself into the sun


Reminds me that I still need to painstakingly go through every single website I use, occassionally or otherwise, and set up my allowed/blocked settings for both NoScript and Adblock.

One of the downsides to a new laptop, particularly when you haven't brought in the old one for monitor repair yet and doing anything on it takes effort.
Tarale
Posts: 1449/1677
Originally posted by rakiru
Unfortunately, Mycroft still uses cloud speech recognition, afaik. They've claimed they're going for full open source and will eventually not rely on uploading your audio to some random place on the internet, but their OpenSTT repo has been empty for 2 years now.

Edit: My bad, it sounds like the idea is to eventually move from sending data to Google, to sending data to them, but to open source whatever they run. So, still uploading audio, but at least it's not to Google; I'm not sure I care about that distinction, personally.

I'm not sure I'm all that keen on the idea, but he reckons that little kids instantly "get" voice command stuff, so it'll be good for the kid when he's talking and stuff.
rakiru
Posts: 13/31
Unfortunately, Mycroft still uses cloud speech recognition, afaik. They've claimed they're going for full open source and will eventually not rely on uploading your audio to some random place on the internet, but their OpenSTT repo has been empty for 2 years now.

Edit: My bad, it sounds like the idea is to eventually move from sending data to Google, to sending data to them, but to open source whatever they run. So, still uploading audio, but at least it's not to Google; I'm not sure I care about that distinction, personally.
Tarale
Posts: 1437/1677
My husband is interested in this Mycroft open source thingy.
SC
Posts: 16/61
I got an Echo Dot for Christmas last year.
I've only used it for checking the weather when I don't want to turn on my PC.

...[shrug emoji]
2Tie
Posts: 968/1047
masto has been asking me persistently to register mastodon dot social as an app for mastodon webpages

i just... what? no go away
Halian
Posts: 357/452
Absolutely not, and never can you cajole, coerce, or force me into getting one.

Remove surveillance capitalism! Ideally retroactively!
BMF54123
Posts: 5809/5835
Personally I'm a huge fan of "[bad website] would like to send you notifications"

How about you throw yourself into the sun
Xkeeper
Posts: 22787/23358
In cases like that, I am quite able to put in the location details myself, thanks.

But I mean more like, news sites. Your shitty homepage doesn't need to know where I live.
Tarale
Posts: 1248/1677
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Speaking of this sort of thing, how about how every webpage on the planet wants to know your location now? It was bad enough when it was Geo-IP.

At least it's blockable.

I understand when it's Dominos or something but ugh yeah. Some places, like Bunnings (hardware store) use it to tell you what's available at the store nearest to you. I block it pretty much every time.
Xkeeper
Posts: 22786/23358
Speaking of this sort of thing, how about how every webpage on the planet wants to know your location now? It was bad enough when it was Geo-IP.

At least it's blockable.
Gabu
Posts: 9719/9806
The moment I accidentally tap the microphone icon (which given this phone's screen sensitivity, is more often than you think) I just jam on any sort of button to get Google outtahere.
Tarale
Posts: 1243/1677
This reminds me of another thread idea…
Xkeeper
Posts: 22779/23358
Sometimes not even that; I have some stuff I got as part of a box-of-assorted-crap that flatly no longer works because the home server is dead and there's no way to bring it back.

See also: Pebble. Great news! Cool new super great watch, the Pebble 2! It's gonna be gre— oops we got bought by FitBit and they're killing our product, bye
StapleButter
Posts: 469/485
not only that, but

those 'smart' gadgets are connected to the internet and need it to function

which allows enforcing planned obsolescence without having to carefully plan how long this or that critical part will last

"oh, this model is no longer compatible with our servers, please buy the newer model "
Tarale
Posts: 1237/1677
Originally posted by sofi
subscription

OH YEAH AND ON THAT NOTE
IT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR HARDWARE
YOU HAVE TO KEEP PAYING
FOR PEOPLE TO MINE YOUR DATA
sofi
Posts: 3518/3796
believe it or not, i was one of the first people to see the Echo. this is b/c they brought a prototype of it to my school to show way before it was even announced.

i thought it was pretty meh. i still think it’s pretty meh.

this, however,



is still meh and rly disappointing that they’re trying to transform their classic robo-pet into a subscription digital assistant.

shame on you, Sony.
dotUser
Posts: 2251/2302
Someone should rewire the mic in on one of these things to eternally be fed sweet saxophone music.

Then you'll be giving the privacy invaders hot sax action 24/7.

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