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06-22-18 08:20:54 AM
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rabidabid
Posts: 118/118
TurfMasta released a couple personal protos on his Twitter.

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BMF54123
Posts: 5851/5852
Originally posted by Skrybe
Here's a recent dump I made of a sample version of Meikyuu Kumikyoku (Milon's Secret Castle) on the Famicom. It cuts off after you beat the first boss. It looks like a lot of the graphics for the later stages have been gutted, so I'm not sure if it would be playable even if you hacked past the cutoff.

This is a pretty fascinating sample! If you wait for a few seconds at the title screen, you'll notice the game goes into a very long gameplay demo, something the retail version doesn't have. It plays through the first level, visits the shop, shows off the bonus stage, visits the shop again, and then fights (and dies against) the first boss. In order to fit all the input data for this demo in the ROM, the developers had to gut two pages of CHR data and everything after $F000 in the PRG ROM (it streams data from PPU $0000-$1FFF, and then switches to PRG). The input data is entirely uncompressed and streamed directly to RAM every frame, which is why it takes up so much space; they probably could have fit it in PRG ROM with some basic compression, but I guess they didn't think it was necessary for a one-level sample.

Thanks for uploading this!
Skrybe
Posts: 21/21
Here's a recent dump I made of a sample version of Meikyuu Kumikyoku (Milon's Secret Castle) on the Famicom. It cuts off after you beat the first boss. It looks like a lot of the graphics for the later stages have been gutted, so I'm not sure if it would be playable even if you hacked past the cutoff.
Flargy_Filler
Posts: 4/4
Surprised I haven't found this earlier, but a 2001 alpha build of Lego Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui was found and posted online a few months ago. It has been confirmed to work on most Windows operating builds when set to Windows XP compatibility mode.

I've got it working by the following:

Installing the game, first. Then downloading the launcher, and inserting it into the game's install directory and installing the launcher then running it to patch the game up to run. Then you just run the "Lego Bionicle" executable.

It can be downloaded here:

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/the-legend-of-mata-nui/

Just to note. I've had issues getting it running in windowed, it's also very prone to crashing from how early of an alpha it is.

einstein95
Posts: 313/314
Direct MEGA link
Flargy_Filler
Posts: 3/4
So, recently the Halo 2 multiplayer alpha was dumped. It's a different build than the one that's listed on TCRF, and actually functions if you load it up on modified servers. From what I've seen, it's a pretty barebones multiplayer on the first game's engine with unfinished assets.

Gameplay of the build can be found in the video below, the download of the alpha is also included in a MEGA link in the video's description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL4h-c6g0n8

rabidabid
Posts: 114/118
Well here's something amusing I just discovered.

The version of Comix Zone released on Virtual Console in the US was actually a prototype lol. The ROM is just called "ComixZone_USA.SGD" but it's identical to this Jun 9, 1995 prototype on Hidden Palace.

The European and Japanese ROMs are identical to the final releases, so they got that right at least.
einstein95
Posts: 308/314
Originally posted by Cuber456
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
Moreover, there's no NR cartridge or NR reader in sight. Seriously? No pictures to prove it's real. I think that's a Wii below the TV too, but hard to say. bowser22 was oddly not specific about what was in the prototype too.

Just recently, a picture of the supposed prototype GameCube (NR reader) CD was posted on page 4. It's something I suppose but still doesn't give anybody much of an idea if [1] the prototype is legit and [2] if it contains something different from the retail release.

That thread is starting to go cold so I'm not holding my breath.




The build date (04/12/02) dates to just 2 days before the US GC Demo Feb 2003 (06/12/02) [1] so I don't place much hope in it being much different from final
Cuber456
Posts: 766/776
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
Moreover, there's no NR cartridge or NR reader in sight. Seriously? No pictures to prove it's real. I think that's a Wii below the TV too, but hard to say. bowser22 was oddly not specific about what was in the prototype too.

Just recently, a picture of the supposed prototype GameCube (NR reader) CD was posted on page 4. It's something I suppose but still doesn't give anybody much of an idea if [1] the prototype is legit and [2] if it contains something different from the retail release.

That thread is starting to go cold so I'm not holding my breath.
Cuber456
Posts: 764/776
Glover 2

I suspect it is the same ROM image that has already been leaked a few years back but I’m not really sure.
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Edit:
On second inspection, maybeee this is Glover 1??? The listing doesn't have a 2 in the title and the dates on the back of the cart preceded the release date of Glover 1 on N64. Not sure what the N64 cart of the Glover 2 proto looked like and if the images on the listing here differ from that leaked ROM. On the other hand, there's very few pictures and I wouldn't be surprised if the seller accidentally omitted the "2" in the title listing so who knows.
divingkataetheweirdo
Posts: 794/812
Moreover, there's no NR cartridge or NR reader in sight. Seriously? No pictures to prove it's real. I think that's a Wii below the TV too, but hard to say. bowser22 was oddly not specific about what was in the prototype too.
Cuber456
Posts: 763/776
So this is more of a bullshit alert than anything else but wanted to convey my thoughts in case anyone else came across this page. Hopefully this will be entertaining for anyone reading this if anything.

Someone claims to have found a Wind Waker prototype at the following link.

https://assemblergames.com/threads/zelda-windwaker-proto.68016/

Now, of course, I can’t say with absolute certainty that it isn’t real and I’ll gladly eat my own words 3 times over if this is legit. Here is what facts I can gather:

-For one, there’s only 3 or 4 pictures in the whole thread.
-The pics more or less are just of the title screen, one is of the debug mode enabled
-The title logo is gold-ish vs red
-There is the word “confidential” on the title screen

Now here is why I think it’s bullshit and some of this was mentioned in that very thread:

-For such a “prototype”, the person who found it doesn’t show too much besides the title screen. Who cares about that, play the game, dive in and report back what’s different with pics and videos.
-Its been known for a while how to bring up the debug mode in the final retail version of the game. It was found by a TCRF user. Not hard to just enable it and snap a picture.
-The simple color change of the title screen and the addition of the “confidential” text is piss easy to do by someone with a little motivation. Trust me, if an idiot like myself can hack a level into the game then you know that this “prototype” reeks.
-From all the legit first party protos I can remember like OoT and the GBA Metroid games, I never remember any of them being labeled with “confidential”. If anything, I believe they had build dates or debug text.
-No pictures of the game disk itself. It’s not that hard to do.
-Of course, the pictures are just blurry shots taken off of a TV screen. The true sign of quality

But I suppose you shouldn’t take my word for it just because I said so.
Skrybe
Posts: 20/21
Just posted a dump from a sample version of Cadillac for the Famicom.
divingkataetheweirdo
Posts: 773/812
Originally posted by Cuber456
Pokemon blue prototype

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Pokemon-Blue-Prototype-Nintendo-Gameboy/263342141055?hash=item3d506a2e7f:g:FYEAAOSwFyhaF-Ez

The longer I look for prototypes, the more cynical and pessimistic I become with listings like this


More like "prototype". There's no screencaps of the prototype, the cartridge lacks "Nintendo" before "Game Boy", and it seems some labels were ripped off the cartridge.

Yeah, that auction is so bad. To be honest though, this doesn't look any better.

Company auctions are a more viable route at this point.
Cuber456
Posts: 755/776
Pokemon blue prototype

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Pokemon-Blue-Prototype-Nintendo-Gameboy/263342141055?hash=item3d506a2e7f:g:FYEAAOSwFyhaF-Ez

The longer I look for prototypes, the more cynical and pessimistic I become with listings like this
iniche
Posts: 12/12
Those Super Probotector protos are final or dumped.
Hiccup
Posts: 733/747
Two eBay listing by the same user:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nintendo-GameCube-kiosk-demos-Japan-2005-collection/302492839376
"Rare Japanese GameCube store kiosk demos. Some new and sealed. Complete 2005.01-2005.06, 2005.11. 7 discs total!"
US $300.00. 3 days left. Buy It Now/Best Offer.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nintendo-GameCube-kiosk-demos-Japan-2003-collection-almost-complete/302492839371
"Rare Japanese GameCube store kiosk demos. Some new and sealed. Complete 2003 set except 2003.01. 14 discs total!"
US $400.00. 3 days left. Buy It Now/Best Offer.

Most of Japanese demo discs are undumped and GameCube demo discs often have (multiple) pre-release demos and videos of games. These are priced pretty well per disc ($30-$40) in comparison to what I've seen them go for individually on Yahoo! Auctions.

Hiccup
Posts: 732/747
Originally posted by Cuber456
It’s clearly a Metroid Zero Mission Prototype

No wonder something looked off.
Too bad it isn't something new.
Cuber456
Posts: 754/776
Seller added title screen pic. Judging from the debug text, I believe that the cart has already been dumped as it matches the later of the 2 available MZM proto dumps. My assessment is that it is only valuable as a collector’s item and isn’t anything we don’t already have. Bummer.
Cuber456
Posts: 753/776
>Metroid Fusion Prototype
>It’s clearly a Metroid Zero Mission Prototype


I’m going off of memory here. Judging from the 5 pictures, they match the format/style of previous (2) MZM prototype ROMs that have been dumped so this looks legit. Whether this prototype is actually what has already been dumped, we can’t say. The only easy indicator would be to check the title screen of the prototype which isn’t shown here.

IIRC, the earlier of the two dumped protos of MZM was basically (final game) + (debug stuff activated). I’m glossing over a few details but the MF protos were a little more interesting because there actually were differences outside of just having debug stuff active. For this proto to have a chance to have value beyond being a cool collector’s item, it has to be an earlier proto than what we have dumped. Otherwise I’d say we already have this.
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